Monday, October 21, 2013

Great Tribulation and Shortening of Days

Departed out (from churches) believe that they have seen the Abomination of Desolation and have fled the churches and have now come out stating they see the coming of Messiah at the doors because they see Alahim's salvation program ended and that they are in Great Tribulation. While scriptures does speak about Great Tribulation and the coming of Messiah but to see themselves a special kind of people only at the end of the world in Great Tribulation is not what scriptures teach because the entire body of Messiah goes through Great Tribulation and not the elect at the end of the world only. This kind of Eschatology is distorted because everything is attributed to the end time believers.

2Th 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of Alahim for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
 5 ¶ Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of Alahim, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of Alahim, for which ye also suffer:

All elect of Alahim go through trials and testing and just because the word Great Tribulation is not used in 2 Thess doesn't mean the elect in previous ages did not go through Great Tribulation. Doesn't Paul quote Psalms 44:22 to show that the elect for Messiah's sake were killed all day long?

Ro 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Messiah? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Didn't John see the entire body of Messiah in Rev 7, doesn't the sealing speak of sealing of ALL ELECT?

Re 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Does this mean that only the last time believers were sealed or the entire body of Messiah? Entire body of Messiah of course.

Re 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our Alahim which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

John saw the entire body of Messiah. The true elect of Alahim in all ages did not take the mark of the beast. The Beastly rules were in all ages. Elect of Alahim were affected by the rule of the beasts in their life time and experienced Great Tribulation.

Let's understand the principle of Messiah saying that Satan's kingdom is not divided.

Lu 11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
 Lu 11:18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

4 beasts of Daniel 7, 4 sore judgments of Alahim as stated in Ezekiel 14:21, 4 winds of heaven held back as stated in Rev 7 are synonymous in all ages

Satan has been trampling Alahims people for time times and dividing of time which is symbolic time of all rule of beasts

Da 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Daniel says that when the 4th beast rose to rule the previous beasts dominion was taken away but their lives were prolonged for a season and time. We see this imagery in Rev 13 as well where the beast like lamb with 2 horns and spoke like a dragon causes the people on earth to worship the first beast.

Re 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The first beast that John speaks resembles the first three beasts of Daniel 7

Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

So to assume that only the end time elect are privileged or deprived in whatever way you take the Great Tribulation is a grave error. All children of Alahim were killed in all ages for the TESTIMONY OF CHRIST.
Looking at Daniel 7:12 the first 3 beasts still rule through the 4th beast or down to the eight beast of our time because the second set of beasts give their allegiance to the first set of beasts. That's the principle we see taught in the scriptures.

Re 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Re 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The beast that was, and is not and yet is. This shows that all elect from the foundations of the world went through Great Tribulation.

What about time, times and dividing of time?

 This is symbolic of elect of Alahim being measured in all times. The dividing of time is the CROSS of CHRIST which is the MEASURING LINE . That's where the sealing took place. That's where mans destiny was sealed. One only needs eyes to see on whose side he is, There are many contending that they belong to Messiah by calling him Yahuah Yahuah. Many have come out of churches with the same abominable doctrines of church and are judging the churches that they have worldliness but don't see a problem in the doctrines taught in the church which match up with what they teach. Well that's for another day. I want to stick to the topic.

Eze 40:3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.(in Chapter 42 we see can read about him measuring the temple)

Zechariah also saw Messiah with a measuring line: Zec 2:1 ¶ I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand.

For a detailed understanding on the measuring line the reader can refer to my study on my blog

David numbered Israel-short outline-What it means? Alahim's Dividing/Measuring line 


I am copy pasting a small section of it for better understanding:

The Angel who revealed to John the revelation of Messiah had the golden reed to measure the city. This angel unfolding these revelations to John is Messiah who alone measures the temple with his dividing line(ransom).


Re 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city,and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

The language is symbolic and we read John is given a reed like unto a rod to measure but there is no record of John doing the measuring. It was the Angel who was measuring, just as Ezekiel said.

Re 11:1 ¶ And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of Alahim, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 

He thrusts in the sickle to separate the wheat and the tares. The land will be divided by line: 


Am 7:17 Therefore thus saith the YAHUAH; Thy wife shall be an harlot in the city, and thy sons and thy daughters shall fall by the sword, and thy land shall be divided by line; and thou shalt die in a polluted land: and Israel shall surely go into captivity forth of his land.

La 2:8 The YAHUAH hath purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion: he hath stretched out a line, he hath not withdrawn his hand from destroying: therefore he made the rampart and the wall to lament; they languished together.

Ps 78:55 He cast out the heathen also before them, and divided them an inheritance by line, and made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tents.

The cross of Messiah determines wheat from tares, wise virgins from foolish, those within the temple and those trampling the outer court.


Coming back to Time, times and dividing of time. This is the same period where it says that the saints were given into Satan's hands for time, times and dividing of time.

Da 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


 There seems to be a contradiction when we read the woman representing elect is nourished for time and times and half a time from the face of the serpent. But when we understand the measuring line of Messiah we understand that time and judgment is always part and parcel of a believers life. We are persecuted by Satan and are in Great Tribulation but at the same time Alahim protects us and nourishes us while we are near Satan's throne.


Re 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Shortening of days for elect's sake:

Mark 13:20 And except that the Yahuah had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.


What does this mean?


We must understand that Messiah likened his coming to the days of Noah. What happened in the times of Noah?


Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were , so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


Man's days were shortened. That's what happened.


Genesis 6:3 And the Yahuah said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.


 Unless the Yahuah had shortened the days no flesh would be saved because Alahims Spirit will no longer strive with man in his prolonged life as after all man was FLESH as stated in Gen 6:3. Prior to the flood man lived as long as 969 years with Methuselah living that long.


 Ge 5:27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.


Now man would live not more than hundred and twenty years because Alahim will not strive with him that long. Looking at mans depravity the Psalmist said that mans days of years is 70 and if by reason of strength is 80 years yet their strength is labor and sorrow.

Psalm 90:10-11 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away. [11] Who knoweth the power of thine anger? even according to thy fear, so is thy wrath.

Look at what Job said

Job 14:1 Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.

For elect sake he has shortened why?


If Elect are given in the hands of the rule of the beasts for time, times and dividing time imagine a prolonged life as before the flood and consider Psalms 44:22 and Rom 8:36 in mind


Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.


The Hebrew word in Gen 6:3 which is translated as 'strive' is 'diyn' which means 'JUDGE'

Alahim has committed all judgement to the Son.

Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

The Son goes into the prisons of heart reaping him by striving with MAN searching him, convicting him and leading him to salvation or hardening of heart.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

1 Peter 3:19-21 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; [20] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of Alahim waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. [21] The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward Alahim,) by the resurrection of Yahusha Messiah:


 Pr 20:27 ¶ The spirit of man is the candle of the YAHUAH, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

 Re 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Messiah is the one who strives with man and the days are shortened for elect sake because elect wouldn't be able to endure the killing if they lived as the ages of men before the flood because if wicked with prolonged life ruled on the elect with a prolonged life it wouldn't be possible for elect to be saved. They would give up.

Psalm 125:3 For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; lest the righteous put forth their hands unto iniquity.

To the wicked the number of years he lives is hidden to him.

Job 15:20 The wicked man travaileth with pain all his days, and the number of years is hidden to the oppressor.

Ps 49:11 Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names.

Lu 12:16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
 17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
 18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
 19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
 20 But Alahim said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?


 But the the elect understand the shortening of their days as a blessing of Alahim.

 Ps 39:4 YAHUAH, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am

Ps 39:5 Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah

Ps 90:12 ¶ So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.

While the depart out look at the shortening of the days of Great Tribulation scriptures testify that Alahim shortened the life span of MAN which was keeping the elect in mind because realized the PAIN his children were suffering. As in the days of Noah so shall the coming of the Son of man be. All elect in all ages have been through the 4 watches and all will receive the same reward as in the parable of Penny a day (Matthew 20)

4 watches is symbolic: Even, Mid night, cock crowing and Morning

Mr 13:35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

In the parable of Matthew 20 the master of the vineyard went out in the 4 watches( third, sixth, ninth and the eleventh hour) to gather the workers into his vineyard. All received the same reward.

Heb 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
 35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
 36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
 40 Alahim having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

The 3rd 4th and 5th so called kingdom claimers beware because you are deceived into seeing Great Trib and events in book of Daniel and Revelation only related to our time and not to the entire body of Messiah. This kind of eschatology is distorted and not from Alahim's Word.

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