Thursday, September 26, 2013

Piercing of Messiah's Soul- Luke 2:34-35

I was reading book of Luke and I came to chapter 2 where Simeon prophesies about Messiah that he is set for the fall and rising of many in Israel and for a sign which shall be spoken against-this struck me and made me look up in the Greek for word to word on verse 35 and I am sharing because the English semantics seems to teach that the sword will be piercing Mary's heart but this would be inconsistent as the sign that Simeon is speaking about in Luke 2:34 is of Messiah. Also it doesn't make sense how Mary's soul would be pierced that would reveal the thoughts of many hearts. This would sound like Maryology. We must be consistent with interpreting scriptures.

What was the sign which shall be spoken against?

First the verses in English which seems to teach that the sword pierces Mary's heart and translators and commentators got this wrong because unless Alahim opens the hearing one cannot see truth :

Lu 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
 35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. 


Now in the Greek word for word on verse 35

Luk 2:35  καὶ σοῦ δὲ αὐτῆς τὴν ψυχὴν διελεύσεται ῥομφαία, ὅπως ἂν ἀποκαλυφθῶσιν ἐκ πολλῶν καρδιῶν διαλογισμοί. 

και (kai :And) σου ( soo: thy) δε (de: moreover) αυτης ( autos: his) την (Ho: that) ψυχην (psuche: soul) διελευσεται ( dierchomai: pass through) ρομφαια ( rhomphaia: sword) οπως (hopoce: so that) αν ( an: whatsoever) αποκαλυφθωσιν ( apokalupto: be revealed) εκ (ek: of) πολλων ( poloos: many) καρδιων (kardia: hearts) διαλογισμοι (dialogismos : thoughts)

I will put it in simple English : And thy moreover his that soul shall pass through a sword so that many hearts thoughts be revealed.

The soul piercing is not of Mary as the translators would have us believe but of Messiah as he came out from Alahim (Logos made flesh) and this is consistent with Heb 4:12 'Dividing asunder' and John 16:27 and John 17:8 where Messiah claims he came out from Alahim.

Heb 4:12 For the word of Alahim is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Joh 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from Alahim.

Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

The sword shall pass through his soul is in future tense because he was only a babe to realize his externalization from Alahim and this realization came when he grew in Alahim's wisdom and grace and opted for 'morphe (nature)' of a servant as stated in Phil 2:7 because he realized that mortal man cannot be equal to Alahim. When he found himself in the fashion as a man he humbled himself to the point of death.

Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

There are 2 Greek words used for sword

1) machaira : which shows a judicial / literal sword (for justice) as used in Heb 4:12 and you can look up many passages-the usage shows for justice

2) rhomphaia: which is used as figurative in Luke 2:35 and else where

Here are few examples of Machaira as used in Heb 4:12. 

For Justice: Mt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword( machaira).

Literal sword: Ac 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword( machaira), and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

For justice: Ro 13:4 For he is the minister of Alahim to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword( machaira) in vain: for he is the minister of Alahim, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

The piercing in Heb 4:12 shows Alahim's justice in giving us a Savior by piercing himself and separating soul from spirit and his thoughts(plan) revealed to us and this justice is also meted out to man as only Alahim's logos can divide asunder his soul from spirit (to show distinction) making him naked before Alahim as stated in verse 13 of Hebrews 4.

Re 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

B Here are few examples of rhomphaia as used in Luke 2:35

All figurative: Re 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword (rhomphaia): and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Re 2:12 ¶ And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword (rhomphaia) with two edges;

Re 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword (rhomphaia) of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Luke 2:35 shows the effect of the sword that pierces Messiah's soul which made Messiah distinct from Alahim (in externalization as he came out from Alahim when incarnated) and as a sign which will be spoke against/debated by many that they know him and in this way he will be a rock of offence/falling of many to those who do not know him/mystery of Alahim. How do we know this? because Luke 2:35 says .....'so that many hearts thoughts be revealed'

Lu 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Messiah; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

The Logos of life (1 John 1:1 and in John 1:1 shows 'that Alahim was that Logos' ) was separated from the breath of Alahim (Spirit)/LIFE, just as  Soul from Spirit as stated in Heb 4:12 (Dividing asunder) and made flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14)and hence Alahim gave us a Son who came out from his own BOSOM (John 1:18) completely externalized from his SELF face to face with creation representing the invisible Alahim as his IMAGE (Col 1:15) and one who bears his OWN SUBSTANCE (Heb 1:3).

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen Alahim at any time; the only begotten Son, which was (Original Greek word used there is eimi which means 'was' and not modern Greek which uses 'oan' which means 'is' )in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The sign of Messiah truly will be the rise and falling of so many as all Messiahians claim to know him but then they have their doctrines of dividing Messiah to a god of their own making. Trinity, Unitarians, Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah Witnesses and so many cults and groups to whom he is a rock of offence/falling.

Only Alahim's elect will understand Messiah's person.

This mystery was hidden in all ages but was now revealed through the holy apostles through whom the revelation of Alahim came in complete.

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in Alahim, who created all things by Yahusha Messiah:

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of Alahim, and of the Father, and of Messiah;


Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Those who have pierced him are those who have INSPECTED him (understood his dividing asunder) in mourning for him as one mourns for his only son. This is a picture of repentance to those whom Alahim has called as stated in John 1:1 'and that Logos existed unto/towards Alahim'. Rev 10 says when the seventh angel sounded the mystery of Alahim will be finished.

Also read 1 These 4:16 Messiah comes with the trumpet of Alahim. He is the one who reveals the mystery of Alahim. 
It will be time that those who rejected his image and misrepresented him will bow their knees and confess that Yahusha is Yahuah to the glory of Alahim the Father

Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Yahusha Messiah is Yahuah, to the glory of Alahim the Father.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of Alahim should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Yahuah himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of Alahim: and the dead in Messiah shall rise first:






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