'Yahusha' or 'Jesus'-What's in a Name?

Pr 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind(ruwach) in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

When we read and understand from Alahim's word we see that Alahim's word has a spiritual language which only Alahim's elect understand by the tender mercies of Alahim. The rest are blinded to truth because Alahim ordained it this way. He confused the languages of man so that he is 'Dispersed in Confusion'. For details you may read my study on 'Zerubbabel-Dispersed in confusion' on my blog www.dsouzashodan72@blogspot.in  

Isa 28:9 ¶ Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

Man is lawless and carnal and blinded to the things of Alahim. Many claim that they know Messiah but yet they do not understand the spiritual language from Alahim's word because Alahim speaks to the people in a 'unknown tongue'. Only those weaned will understand. To understand what means to be Weaned or under suck you may refer to my study 'Am I weaned or under suck?' on this blog.

Let's begin our study with Proverbs 30:4 where book of Proverbs was considered to be written by one of the most wisest men in history of mankind. There was none wise like king Solomon who is a type of Messiah who is the 'Wisdom of Alahim'

Pro 30:4  Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? 

1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Messiah the power of Alahim, and the wisdom of Alahim.

In the Proverbs king Solomon asks the reader to know and tell if he knows the name of the one who has THE BREATH OF EVERY LIVING THING IN HIS HAND (RUWACH) and the one who has bound the waters in a garment?

Isa 40:12 ¶ Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

 13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the YAHUAH, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

King Solomon asks whether one could tell the name of the one who holds RUWACH of every living thing and the waters in his garment and the name of his Son?

So there revolves a mystery in the name of the YAHUAH and the name of his Son which only the elect would understand because the name is revealed only to them. We are the living stones on whom Messiah has written his name which pagans will never understand.

 Re 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Re 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my Alahim, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my Alahim, and the name of the city of my Alahim, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my Alahim: and I will write upon him my new name.

Before we look at some important aspects as 'What's in a name?', 'Is a name change of Alahim allowed?' let's first look at who was the one who descended and ascended into heaven as stated in Proverbs 30:4

Eph 4:10 He(Messiah) that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Yes the one who descended and ascended was Messiah. He is the Son of the living Alahim. But does Alahim have a name? Does his Son have a name? If Messiah tells his elect that he will give his elect his new name written then it definitely holds that we must find out what that name is?

Moreover John saw  all elect (the entire body of Messiah) on Mount Sion with the Lamb and having his Father's name written on their foreheads.

Re 14:1 ¶ And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

What is that name?

Ex 6:2 And Alahim spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the YAHUAH:

 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of Alahim Almighty, but by my name YAHUA was I not known to them.

We also see Messiah praying that Alahim would glorify his name and Alahim says that he has both glorified it and will glorify it again. Here is the verse:

Joh 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

So Alahim speaks of glorifying his name TWICE. So let's look at when did Alahim reveal to Moses that his name was 'YAHUA' and what does the name mean?

Yahuah comes from the root word 'hawah' (Strongs 1901) which means 'to be/become'. In what context Alahim reveals to Moses his name can be understood when we read Exo 6:1

Ex 6:1 ¶ Then the YAHUAH said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land.

With a mighty hand Alahim would deliver his people from the hand of Pharaoh and Alahim fulfilled this when he cast the horse and the rider in the depths of the sea.

Ex 15:4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.

 5 The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone.

 6 Thy right hand, O YAHUAH, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O YAHUAH, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

 Isa 53:1 ¶ Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the YAHUAH revealed? 

Joh 12:37 ¶ But though he (Messiah)had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:

 38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Yahuah been revealed?

The Yahuah is a Spirit and his 'ARM' is an act of him 'BECOMING' (1906 'hayah') which we see fulfilled in Messiah who is the Right hand of the Yahuah which is become glorious in power as stated in Exo 15: 6 because by it he dashed in pieces the enemy.

Re 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty

Re 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers(suntribo: to shatter): even as I received of my Father.

In the context of John 12:28 when we compare scriptures with scriptures we see that Alahim glorified his name 'YAHUA' the first time when he delivered Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand and the second time by the name of his Son which is rooted and come from 'YAHUA' and that name is 'YahuahSHI' which means 'YAHUA HAS BECOME MY SALVATION'

Php 2:9 Wherefore Alahim also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

 10 That at the name of 'YahuahSHI' every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Song of Moses and the Lamb:

Ex 15:1 ¶ Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the YAHUAH, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the YAHUAH, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

Ex 15:4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.

 5 The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone.

 6 Thy right hand, O YAHUAH, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O YAHUAH, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

Re 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of Alahim.
 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of Alahim, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Yahuah Alahim Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

The Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb shows the glorification of the name of 'YAHUA' twice as Alahim stated in John 12:28. The ARM of the YAHUAH is revealed by his NAME.

This the new name Messiah says he will give his elect and write on them. His seal of his salvation he attained for them by 'BECOMING'. Alahim is invisible and intangible and Messiah is the image of the invisible Alahim (Col 1:15). He came out from Alahim (John 16:27, 17:8)

Alahim cannot be seen or touched because in transcendence he dwells in an unapproachable light which not even one can see or approach. (1 Tim 6:16)

So his name is important and needs his 'VALIDATION'. We may name our children after our name or any name we seem may good but we cannot NAME GOD. This right he reserves himself and he reveals his name to his elect which no man should change. Man is lawless and has in him inbuilt 'dispersed in confusion' and has a god of his own making ability and always displays 'WILL WORSHIP'.

Alahim's name has his VALIDATION because when you call on his name he SAVES. That's his promise.

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the YAHUAH( YAHUA) shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the YAHUAH hath said, and in the remnant whom the YAHUAH shall call.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Yahuah (YahuahSHI) shall be saved.

Yes that VALIDATION Alahim has given because YahuahSHI comes from the name YAHUA

The Devil knows that by calling on the name of YahuahSHI there is salvation so he has to set in a different name which will leave callers powerless and that name is Yahusha (we will look at the origin of the name Yahusha a little later).The name YahuahSHI has the form of a compound of "Yeho-" and "shua": Yeho- יְהוֹ is another form of יָהו Yahu, a theophoric element standing for the name of Alahim יהוח (the Tetragrammaton Yahuah, sometimes transcribed into English as Yahuah or Jehovah).As far as the Hebrew Bible is concerned, it is important to note that in the early books, the name Joshua is spelled as ( yod-hey-waw-shin-ayin)

Nothing is more annoying than when someone calls you by a name that is not your name. It would be insulting if it had repeatedly been made clear what your name was. But after they had been warned not to call you by any other name, especially a derogatory name you would be furious.

I am YAHUA, that is My name; and My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. (Isaiah 42:8)

Man is carnal and doesn't understand the things of Alahim. Man doesn't understand why Alahim gave us a name. Messiah bears the name of YAHUA and came in his NAME

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

These are the very words of Messiah. You will not see ( greek word horao: which means discern clearly/behold) me unless you confess that I am come in the name of 'YAHUA'. Those who can't see/discern this/behold this are under the influence of Mystery Babylon because the name change from 'YahuahSHI' to 'Iseous' was done by Rome.

Mt 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see(horao) me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Yahuah.

Ps 118:26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the YAHUAH(YAHUA): we have blessed you out of the house of the YAHUAH.

I will give a short background of the name change that happened from 'YahuahSHI' to 'Iesous'. There was a transition from the 5th beastly rule (Greece) to the 6th beastly rule (Rome) and Rome wanted to win all the Greeks to be loyal to her so she adopted the Greek culture which can be seen in the names of various places which even bible mentions

It is known that the Greek name endings with sus, seus, and sous were attached by the Greeks to names and geographical areas as means to give honour to their supreme deity, Zeus.

Few cities in Alahim's word which shows this are 'Tarsus', 'Ephesus', 'Cyprus', 'Ashdod called as Azotus by Greeks','Ptolemais' ,'Miletus' etc. The names like 'Cornelius' ,'Elijah was called as 'Elias', 'Trophimus' etc all have their roots from the 5th beast Greece who were obsessed with their deity 'Zeus'. Rome was now paganizing Messiahianity so to appease the Greek converts they adopted a new name for the Messiah and that was 'Iesous' which actually mans 'Hail Zeus'

How long shall this be? Is it in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies, and prophets of the deceit of their own heart? That think to cause My people to forget My name (Yahuah) by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers forgot My name (Yahuah) for Ba'al (god & Yahuah). (Jeremiah 23:26-27)

These are the roots of Mystery Babylon. Changing Alahim's name is forbidden in scripture. And Jeremiah 23:26-27 is very clear on this. Giving Alahim a name which is not VALIDATED by him is taking his name in VAIN. It's a direct violation of the 10 commandments.

You shall not take the Name of Yahuah your Elohim in vain; for Yahuah will not hold him guiltless that takes His name in vain. (Exodus 20:7)

"Ie" translates as "Hail" and "sous"or "sus" translates as Zeus. The English name "Yahusha", therefore, stems etymologically from "Jupiter-Zeus" the chief god of the ancient Greek Olympus."-"Yeshua" (from Aramic) or "Yahusha"

Yahusha the English name derived from 'Iesous' was a name given to him by the early church many years after His death.  They wanted to remove any Jewishness from the new church. They eliminated His Jewish name and blended the name of Zeus into the Messiahian church to make it comfortable for all those who previously worshiped the Greek and Roman gods.  It made it easier for the pagans to become  Messiahians. Since Zeus was the top god of their experience, attaching the name Ioesus to Yahushua gave Him top priority in the worship hierarchy.

The pagans of Greece and Rome had worshiped Zeus as the supreme deity. Their savior was Zeus, so now they were eager to accept Yahusha as Iesous, or Zeus as their saviour.

Satan knows the saving power in the name of 'YahuahSHI' so he gave Messiahianity a pagan name called 'IESOUS' and translated in English as Yahusha.

Ac 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

We have a clue to THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY, from the scripture and the word 'HALLELUYAH' which means Praise YAH, so YAH is his name.The name of Yahusha is a 400 year old name approximately, because the English language never had the letter "J" till then. No name beginning with the letter "J" can be attributed to
THE ALMIGHTY. It's 'YAH' and his Son 'YahuahSHI' pronounced as 'YAHUSHUA' that Solomon is asking you to know and understand.

Even HALLELUYAH' has been replaced with 'HalleluJAH' .The name Yahusha is NOT a derivative of Yahuah. We have many out there saying we are legalists who follow this and that's because they do not understand the roots of Mystery Babylon and are into whoredoms. Messiah will reveal his name only to his elect.

Ps 68:4 Sing unto Alahim, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH (YAH), and rejoice before him.

Ps 105:45 That they might observe his statutes, and keep his laws. Praise ye the YAHUAH (HalalYAH)

Alahim calls us to repentance and correction. What's in his name? Who is man to change the name that Alahim has revealed? YahuahSHI is not Yahusha. Millions are calling on that name just as people forgot YAHUA's name for BAAL as stated in Jeremiah 23:26-27. This is another whoredom of Mystery Babylon

Ezekiel 36: 20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the YAHUAH, and are gone forth out of his land.
21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Yahuah GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the YAHUAH(YAHUA), saith the Yahuah GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the YAHUAH; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the YAHUAH(YAHUA), to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Zerubbabel-'Dispersed in Confusion'

Meaning of the name 'Zerubabel'. Zerubabel can be broken down into ''zar'' and ''babel'' o

Zarubabel comes from the root Abary word ''zar'' which means 'spread out/scattered'. The other part of the name is 'babal' which means 'confusion' and has the root word 'bal' which means 'nothing'

zar:

Bal: bal means nothing/come to nothing

This Babal is rooted in ''babel''. Babel has the abary letters 'bet bet lamed' where bet is the house and the lamed means teach. Babel is the house within the house teaching. 
When you put the pictographs together the name 'Zarababel' means 'Scattered in confusion'

His name means 'Dispersed/Scattered in Confusion' 

Let's see the spiritual significance of what was 'Dispersed in Confusion' means and who Zerubbabel was?

Zerubbabel was one of the captives in Babylon who played an important role in laying the foundation of the house of the Yahuah. I urge readers to read the book of Ezra to understand how Zerubbabel stood up strong to build the house of the Yahuah.

In the quoted verses from Zec 4 verse 10 says that the Plummet (measuring line) was in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven (referring to the Revelation of Messiah)

Zec 4: 10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of  YAHUAH, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

We see a picture of Messiah revealing himself to his elect in all ages. The eyes running to and fro through the whole earth is a picture of Messiah's revelation for his elect in all ages. He has the measuring line. 

I will just quote a few verses from Ezra to give you a back ground on Zerubbabel. There were adversaries of Yahudah (Judah) and Banyamin (Benjamin) who came to him stating they too want to build the house of the Yahuah but he rejected their offer because they were adversaries of the children of Alahym. When these people were refused by him they sent a letter to king Artaxerxes IN THE SYRIAN TONGUE (Aramiyth) stating to check the records of king of Babylon that these are a rebellious people and don't pay revenue to the kings ruling over them and Artaxerxes asks the records to be searched and finds it to be true and commands to stop building the house of the Yahuah. Here are the verses.

Ezra 4:4 Then the people of the land weakened the hands of the people of Yahudah (Judah), and troubled them in building,
5 And hired counselors against them, to frustrate their purpose, all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even until the reign of Darius king of Persia.
Ezra4:6 Now in the reign of Ahasuerus, in the beginning of his reign, they wrote an accusation against the inhabitants of Yahudah and Yerushalam.
Ezra 4:7 And in the days of Artaxerxes, Bishlam, Mithredath, Tabeel and the rest of his colleagues wrote to Artaxerxes king of Persia; and the writing of the letter was written in Aramaic and translated from Aramaic.  


Ezra 4: 14 Now because we have maintenance from the king's palace, and it was not meet for us to see the king's dishonor, therefore have we sent and certified the king;
15 That search may be made in the book of the records of thy fathers: so shalt thou find in the book of the records, and know that this city is a rebellious city, and hurtful unto kings and provinces, and that they have moved sedition within the same of old time: for which cause was this city destroyed.
16 We certify the king that, if this city be builded again, and the walls thereof set up, by this means thou shalt have no portion on this side the river.

Ezra 4:23 Now when the copy of king Artaxerxes' letter was read before Rehum, and Shimshai the scribe, and their companions, they went up in haste to Yerushalam (Jerusalem) unto the Yahudi's (Jews), and made them to cease by force and power.
24 Then ceased the work of the house of Alahym which is at Yerushalam (Jerusalem). So it ceased unto the second year of the reign of Darius king of Persia.


 But Zerubbabel rose up and started building the temple of Yahuah with the prophets of Alahym helping him which is a picture of elect being laborers in the vineyard of Messiah.He and those with him were questioned by the governor as to who gave him the permission to build the temple and a letter was sent to Darius to search the records that the command to build was given by Cyrus king of Babylon & Persia. Zerubbabel understood that the law of the Persians state that once a king of Medes Persia makes a decree it cannot be reversed. This law of the kings of Medes Persia can be understood through the book of Esther. So he was not afraid to build the house of Yahuah because king Cyrus had commanded it.


Ezra 5:1 Then the prophets, Haggai the prophet, and Zechariah the son of Iddo, prophesied unto the Yahudi's (Jews) that were in Yahudah (Judah) and Yerushalam (Jerusalem) in the name of the Alahym of Yasharal (Israel), even unto them.
2 Then rose up Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Yeshua (Jeshua) the son of Yozadak (Jozadak), and began to build the house of Alahym which is at Yerushalam (Jerusalem): and with them were the prophets of Alahym helping them.
3 At the same time came to them Tatnai, governor on this side the river, and Shetharboznai, and their companions, and said thus unto them, Who has commanded you to build this house, and to make up this wall?


Esther 8: 4 Then the king held out the golden sceptre toward Esther. So Esther arose, and stood before the king,
5 And said, If it please the king, and if I have found favor in his sight, and the thing seem right before the king, and I be pleasing in his eyes, let it be written to reverse the letters devised by Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, which he wrote to destroy the Jews which are in all the king's provinces:
6 For how can I endure to see the evil that shall come unto my people? or how can I endure to see the destruction of my kindred?
7 Then the king Ahasuerus said unto Esther the queen and to Mordecai the Jew, Behold, I have given Esther the house of Haman, and him they have hanged upon the gallows, because he laid his hand upon the Jews.
8 Write ye also for the Jews, as it liketh you, in the king's name, and seal it with the king's ring: for the writing which is written in the king's name, and sealed with the king's ring, may no man reverse.

Zerubbabel was a type of Messiah, the one who builds the house of Alahym and that's what we read in Zech 4:10 that the plummet was in his hand with the seven eyes which run to and fro the earth

Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Kepha (Peter), and upon this rock I will build my assembly; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The Grace of Messiah can be seen by him(Messiah) supporting the seven candle stick  by HIS PRESENCE because the promise that the last Adam would be the Quickening Spirit was given to Messiah 

Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of  YAHUAH unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith YAHUAH of hosts.
7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof withshoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.

Hence we see the 2 Olive branches besides the seven pipe candle stick was Messiah the Helper. This nine branch Menorah  consists of seven branches with additional raised branches. The extra light is called a shamash (Hebrew: שמש‎, "attendant"/"Helper") and is given a distinct location, usually above or below the rest. The first candle stick needed a priest daily in the temple to ensure that there is oil in the LAMP but the new one has two golden pipes that empty the golden oil out of themselves and these are the two anointed ones before Yahuah. The oil and the lamp is from YAHUAH himself.

Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

2 Corin 3:17 Now the Adon (Master) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Adon is, there is liberty.

Hence we see the fulfillment of the words 'Not by might, nor by power but by my Spirit says  Yahuah in Messiah' who is that Spirit who gives the GOLDEN OIL and the LIGHT.

Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

In every way he is identified with his elect. The plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel and his eyes(Revelation of who he is) which run to and fro the earth points to Messiah.

The other mystery hidden in his name is ' Sown in Babylon'/'Descended from Babylon', 'Babel' being part of his name. We know what happened in Babel, Yahuah descended down to confuse the language of men and diversified Mystery Babylon from it's physical rule to spiritual rule with the beastly kingdoms on earth .

Gen 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before YAHUAH: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before YAHUAH.
10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Gen 11:5 And YAHUAH came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

Gen 11: 8 So  YAHUAH scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because YAHUAH did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did YAHUAH scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Yahuah further gives us the meaning of 'Babel' here which means 'confound'/'confuse'. In the name ZERUBBABEL Isn't Messiah hidden? Many claim to know him but lack the golden oil and the light that comes from him. Alahym made it this way because when Alahym confounded the languages of men he allowed Mystery Babylon to teach and seduce people by confusing their language in understanding who the true and living Alahym is. Carnal man doesn't understand the language of Alahym and lives in confusion of an 'unknown tongue'.

John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him has Alahym the Father sealed.

We see the descending of  Yahuah to confuse the languages of men and all men including the elect were in this confusion

Daniel 9:7 O Yahuah, righteousness belongs to you, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Yahudah, and to the inhabitants of Yerushalam, and unto all Yasharal, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither you have driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
8 O Yahuah, to us belongs confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against you.
9 To Yahuah our Alahym belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;
10 Neither have we obeyed the voice of YAHUAH our Alahym, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.

Psalms 2: 1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against YAHUAH, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Looking at Zerubbabel, in the midst of all the confusion he was wise and this attribute is displayed by Alahym in that he catches the wise in his craftiness (1 Corin 3:19-20). He understood that the laws of the kings of Medes Persia state that once a decree made by a king cannot be reversed and has to be fulfilled so in his zeal he continued to build the house of  Yahuah. He did not allow the enemies of the people of Yahuah to partake in building the house. The pagans have no portion in the house of  Yahuah/ of the golden oil. We are the house of  Yahuah that Messiah is building. There is no room for those without a wedding garment.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of Alahym;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Yahusha the Messiah himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together grows unto an holy temple in Yahuah:
22 In whom you also are builded together for an habitation of Alahym through the Spirit.

Finally we see Alahym saying that he will make 'Zerubbabel' a signet/seal of shaking the heavens and the earth which shows that this is spoken of Yahusha the Messiah.

Haggai 2: 20 And again the word of YAHUAH came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,
21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Yahudah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.
23 In that day, saysYAHUAH of hosts, will I take you, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, says YAHUAH, and will make you as a signet: for I have chosen you, says YAHUAH of hosts.

Heb 12: 25 See that you refuse not him that speaks. For if they escaped not who refused him that spoke on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaks from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he has promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before Alahym, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

Finally we see the letter sent to king Artaxerxes IN THE SYRIAN TONGUE. These were the adversaries of Judah and Benjamin, the very same people who said that they worshiped the same Alahym as Zerubbabel. These are the so called Jews who are actually trampling the outer court and are ones clinging to Messiah but are FORNICATORS. The letter in the Syrian Tongue is symbolic of the like language of the pagan people which was sent as a confusion and speaks of what Yahuah did at Babel when he Dispersed them in Confusion to follow a strange language besorah gospel. They sent this letter in Syrian tongue (Aramaic) to get favor from the king against Yahuah's people.

Ezra 4:1 Now when the adversaries of Judah and Benjamin heard that the children of the captivity builded the temple unto YAHUAH Alahym of Yasharal;2 Then they came to Zerubbabel, and to the chief of the fathers, and said unto them, Let us build with you: for we seek your Alahym, as you do; and we do sacrifice unto him since the days of Esarhaddon king of Assur, which brought us up hither.

Names in Alahym's word carry spiritual truths and 'Zerubbabel' though it sounds as a pagan name, the name reveals the purpose of Alahym in showing us who Messiah is to those who are in rebellion to him and who belong to him and who Mystery Babylon is and who belong to her. Because of the confusion of the languages many have made a 'gad' of their own making but in this confusion of language Yahusha still builds his house and gives the golden oil to his own.

* Please note that there was no name change for Messiah. Zerubbabel is tied up to Messiah in a spiritual significance of judgment on Alahym's house by Confusion set in at the foundation*

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My response in Blue:

Quote: Look you haven't develop a  doctrine on just those two scriptures.  You have to have gotten information outside the Bible, which is in violation of Rev 22:18.  You mentioned the Maccabees. That's a violation because it is not a part of Alahim's Word.  [One]  Don't preach to be about the catholics bible because Alahim show me they are not of Messiah.

[Two (a)] The books of  jasher, Nathan , prophecy of Ahijah, Iddo are not part of the Bible, so Alahim did not see fit to put them in because (possibly) they were not completely faithful.  So they are a test to those who would look outside the Bible and develop doctrines which also are not faithful to the Bible.

(b) Also your statement>"Search and u will never find in the bible what this feast was all about which Messiah himself observed" reveals the temptation to which you have succumbed.  You were drawn to "look" outside the Bible to information that CANNOT be consider from Alahim, but from man. And we know how corrupt man has been. End Quote

You accuse me of getting information outside the bible. You are saying as though the dates 1988, 1994, May 21st 2011, Oct 2011 and now Oct 2015 are mentioned in the bible? These are dates formulated by carnal men and derived from a calendar which is man made by adding and multiplying ages of patriarchs and men from bible. 2 dates have failed and yet you are deceived by the beast to believe a 3rd date and then there will be a 4th date and the story never ends. Let Alahim be the judge. I myself was deceived by this but thank Alahim that this deception worked out for my good because Messiah opened my eyes to see who Mystery Babylon is.
This information you are boasting about is neither found in the pages of the bible but yet you derived it so you violated Rev 22:18.
I made it clear to you that I did not formulate a doctrine with a date in it when I shared with you on Hanukah. I was only showing Daniel's 1335 days because the prophecy to us is spiritual. Moreover if you were a true bible student you would search out the matter to understand what feast of dedication/Hanukah means because Jews observed it and so did Messiah. Jews still observe it.

Moreover the prophecy had a literal fulfillment when Alexander the great divided his kingdom with his 4 generals and Daniel prophesied of this. Here is the prophecy.

Da 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

I am not asking you to look beyond the bible to formulate a doctrine but then is Alahim just casually telling us that those who wait till 1335 days are blessed? Is it?

Da 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Alahim uses these numbers spiritually teaching us truths from his word through prophecy which was fulfilled literally. Messiah died exactly at the time of Passover/Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) and scripture says Re 19:10 ......for the testimony of Yahusha is the spirit of prophecy. This testimony of Messiah is borne by the elect of Messiah and Alahim uses the number 1260 or time, times and dividing of time to show that they carry this testimony. Alahim uses the Jewish feasts to show the setting of these spiritual numbers so that we understand the prophecy. Hanukah/Chanukah was exactly 75 days from the day of Atonement 1260+75 =1335 days of Daniel.

You folks got the 2300 days wrong as you see it in 1988 when according to your wonder beastly calendar it started then but Daniel's prophecy of 2300 days was fulfilled in the days when the Greece Empire put it fangs in Jerusalem and the temple was rededicated and hence the Jews celebrate Chanukah/Hanukah to this day. Your wonder calendar ignores this feast because the beast will never understand the significance of true prophecy.

Here are the verses: Da 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 15 ¶ And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

This happened around 167 BC when Alexander's Grecian empire was divided among 4 notable horns.

Da 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

Prophecy is always spiritual and though literally fulfilled in the days when the temple was cleansed and rededicated by the candle stick being lit and daily restored (Hanukah) the true temple of Messiah is his elect and hence the time of the end will have a likewise spiritual fulfillment. Unfortunately the beast doesn't understand spiritual things so by his dark sentences wisdom he derived a calendar with dates which are multiples and addition of dates and ages to arrive at dates which are deceiving. While the date prediction as per the calendar was wrong you still sent it across to me saying Glory to Alahim. How can you be so deceived to believe it? If May 21 2011 and Oct 21 2011 did not happen then all those formulas to arrive at these dates itself is wrong and the information outside the bible straight from the pit of hell.

Da 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said,Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

Alahim uses the 1290 and 1335 days of Daniel 8 from a literal fulfillment (in Grecian rule) to show us it’s spirituality. He further established this by a literal fulfillment of death of Messiah on day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), and pouring of Holy Ghost on day of Pentecost (Shavu'ot) and Hanukah/Festival of lights to end it by restoring the candle light in New Jerusalem and he is the light of the New Jerusalem.

Re 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of Alahim did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The Abomination of desolation is nothing but a diluted gospel which doesn't save because the gospel looks spiritual but it is from Satan because he is in the midst of it. I already shared with you the Zec 5:6-11 passages which show this.

Zechariah 5:6-11 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. [7] And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. [8] And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. [9] Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. [10] Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? [11] And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base. 

Ephah was a sin offering and the woman in the midst of it was Mystery Babylon which dilutes the gospel. It’s like the image set up by Antiochus in the Jewish temple (during the Grecian empire) which was Abominable.

Re 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Messiah’s servants were seduced and fornicated with the whore and they repent of their fornication of those abominable doctrines of Mystery Babylon.

Quote: {Three]  " I will come" is Spiritual which Alahim shows us; so is the same as His Judgment upon the world upto the 'last day'.

[Four] The removal of the candlestick speaks of the church age, and perfectly aligns and parallels with Alahim's judgments He brought upon the nation of Israel at the cross, as the same He has done on the churches, because of the heart of man. As the parable in Matt 21:33- 41 shows.

Hence, Matt 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men (Israelites), and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen (Church age), which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

When Messiah was crucified Alahim rent the temple vale into and accomplished two exposed purposes, the way to the YAHUAH was opened directly to His elect (finished with the nation of Israel and given to the gentiles/church age) and (Messiah) He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease as prophecied in Daniel 9:24-27.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I hope your understanding of this passage isn't what the churches have been teaching that the one who causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease is the devil and not Messiah. If you understand it is Messiah then we can move forward.  If you want to see an excellent study that shows it has to be Messiah and is in perfect harmony with the whole Bible then check this out.  It is well worth the comparing scriptures with scriptures.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/70wks.html

The vineyard in the parable above represents Alahim's place where Alahim was working His salvation (fruits) and Alahim has shown this same vineyard that was given to 'otherhusbandmen' is prophesied in Isaiah 5.  And for sure we have a perfect timeline as to when Messiah was crucified on April 1, 33AD  of if you prefer was on the Passover (a Friday) 11045 years from creation.

There are thousands of scriptures, that Alahim uses to bring His Word into perfect understanding as regarding these last days.

Shodan, my hope is Alahim will give you the desire to check out all this and much more and not lean on the studies you have already 'accepted' as sound doctrine.  If you do and if you find any discrepancies. I will gladly look at them

But in the end all understanding from Alahim (His Spirit) will be His doing and will be found 'only' from the Bible.

Glory to Alahim in the highest,

Roger

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You are misinterpreting Daniel 9:27. The One week/7 days of Daniel is spiritual

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The covenant made was with his sacrifice (Passover). Messiah is the Passover lamb. The Israelites were told to eat unleavened bread with it and the eating of the unleavened bread was for 7 days which was a reminder of their SOJOURN (for details on blessedness of Sojourning read my study 430 or 400 years in Egypt which is on my blog)

De 16:1 ¶ Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim: for in the month of Abib the YAHUAH thy Alahim brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the YAHUAH shall choose to place his name there.3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.4 And there shall be no leavened bread seen with thee in all thy coast seven days; neither shall there anything of the flesh, which thou sacrificedst the first day at even, remain all night until the morning.

But because his people who are called by his name fornicate with the whore (leaven of sin) and forget their sojourn and start living lawless lives fornicating with Mystery Babylon by following her false doctrines he causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease by allowing all of them to go into captivity. This picture can be seen by the woman in the midst of the ephah in the Zechariah passages.

Ho 13:6 According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.7 Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.9 ¶ O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.

The Yahuah says he will be like a lion, as a leopard and as a bear (beastly kingdoms of Satan) bereaved of her whelps to his people and tear them up. These all include foolish and wise virgins. All slumbered and slept and forgot their SOJOURN.

Mt 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

The midnight cry came from the false prophet of the 8^th beast himself who is of the 7^th (Rev 17:11) and not from a so called secret coming of Messiah to take away the candle stick but through the calendar and eschatology you are following now which came from the mouth of the beast. Hearing this cry both foolish and wise virgins came out to meet the bridegroom which shows they both were deceived but wise understood and saw this deception but foolish continue with the beast and his wonder.

Mt 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

By his tail (false prophet) Satan cast the third part of the stars of heaven (elect) and cast them to the earth.

Re 12:4 And his (dragon’s) tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Isa 9:14 Therefore the YAHUAH will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

He causes fire to come down from heaven (as though it was a wonder from Alahim himself) and your calendar and eschatology is this wonder.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Da 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the Alahim of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

That is how the Yahuah met his people as the lion, leopard and as a bear bereaved of her whelps.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Da 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

When the false prophet of the 8^th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7^th seal which shows the time is very short.

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The half an hour of Rev 8:1 and midst of week of Daniel 9:27 is synonymous to the MIDNIGHT CRY to come out to meet the bridegroom. By this cry the wise virgins came out to only see that they were deceived and Messiah gives his elect understanding by showing them who MYSTERY BABYLON is and that they must repent of their wickedness of fornicating with her. Their deception by the beast worked to their awakening to truth because they heard and understood who Mystery Babylon is now from the voice that came from heaven.

Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

The focus of GT is Messiah and his elect and not corporate churches. We have sinned not they only. Your eschatology is ‘I’m safe outside the church’ and woe to the churches but the beast himself called you outside the church and what are you doing? 

My prayer is that the Yahuah open the eyes of your understanding that you come out of this deception and see who Mystery Babylon is.

Quote: If you get the last one answered just from the Bible.  Then please answer this one. 

When the false prophet of the 8

^th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7^th seal which shows the time is very short.

Show how you arrived at the "8th beast cried and there was silence in heaven for a space of half an hour". End Quote

The beast is given unto him a mouth. His power is in his MOUTH because by it he gives the cry to go out to meet the bridegroom and all go to out to meet the false christ and believe a false gospel.These are spiritual things and only can be understood by comparing spiritual with spiritual

Re 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

 19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Re 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of Alahim Almighty.

Now for the verses to show this.John talks of ten horns/kings which have received no kingdom as yet-these shall receive power as kings one hour with the beast. We must see in the context that John is saying these things

Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Now for the context:

Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

There are eight beastly rules of Satan throughout time on earth and the eighth is of the seven. John is told here is the mind which hath wisdom and this wisdom is that Mystery Babylon is ruling on all these 7 beastly rules. 

Read verse 10 there are seven kings and five are fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon,Medes Persia and Greece are the 5 beasts fallen) and one is (Rome was ruling when John wrote Revelation and went on to be the longest rule as this was the 4th dreaded beast of Daniel 7) and one is yet to come (the 7th beast which was the little horn from Rome-all those who came out of Rome). Are you with me till here?

Now verse 11 the beast that was and is not and yet is, is the eighth and is from the seven and goes into perdition. The ten horns/kings which have no kingdom yet(because the 8th beast was not yet come) will receive power one hour with the beast and they will give their power and strength to this beast.

Now for the space of half an hour

The opening of seals is the revealing of events which were sealed or hidden. Daniel was told that the vision was shut up till the time of the end

Da 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Yahuah, what shall be the end of these things?

 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end

Now we read that when Messiah opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for half an hour. This was the darkest part of the hour because this 8th beast was given the mouth and power was in his mouth. He gave the midnight cry and took all (both foolish and wise virgins) to meet the false Messiah

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The wise virgins fornicated with the WHORE and hence there was silence of the true gospel in the kingdom of heaven for half and hour while they fornicated while the 10 horns/kings which had no kingdom yet continued to rule with the beast for the complete one hour. The silence is broken with the voice from Alahim out of heaven to come out of MYSTERY BABYLON. The wise realized that the call was to come out of Mystery Babylon and not a local church and Mystery Babylon is the lawlessness within and not outside.

The man of sin seated in the temple is not Satan sitting in the church but us. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit and the works of wood, hay and stubble will be burnt by the fire of GT and elect will suffer loss but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire.

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of Alahim, and that the Spirit of Alahim dwelleth in you?

 17 If any man defile the temple of Alahim, him shall Alahim destroy; for the temple of Alahim is holy, which temple ye are.

Paul spoke saying that day will not come until the falling away comes first and the falling away is the elect of Alahim fornicating with the WHORE

2Th 2:3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The call to come out of Mystery Babylon brought the unsealing of the prophecies of  Daniel which were shut up till the time of the end. The elect now understand that the false prophet's cry to meet the bridegroom was to take them captive to a false Messiah and a false gospel and they come out of Mystery Babylon and stand afar off for the fear of her torment and weep and lament and mourn.

One more thing in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins the foolish virgins lamps were already gone out

Mt 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

In the candle stick the continuous supply of oil is given so that the fire keeps burning but their fire was already out and they met the false Messiah who satisfied their desire and gave them the strange fire.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 

While the wise virgins works were burned by fire (because they fornicated with the whore: slumbered and slept) they themselves were saved yet as so by the fire which was still there in their lamps because that was the true fire from heaven.

1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Alahim's covenant with Living Creatures

Genesis 9:12-16 And Alahim said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: [13] I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. [14] And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: [15] And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. [16] And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between Alahim and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

From the first glance it seems that Alahim is telling Noah that he will never again destroy all flesh but if you microscope your examination of the verses and see that Alahim is telling Noah that the token of covenant would be between Him and Noah and every LIVING CREATURE with him(verse 12) and in verse 15 between Alahim and Noah and every living creature of all flesh. Alahim gave a sign of the covenant and the sign was the rainbow in the cloud.

Mr 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush Alahim spake unto him, saying, I am the Alahim of Abraham, and the Alahim of Isaac, and the Alahim of Jacob?

 27 He is not the Alahim of the dead, but the Alahim of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

Who are the living creatures? The elect of course. We can see spiritual imagery concerning the description of the living creatures in the book of Ezekiel and Revelation. Before we see the imagery let's also examine the RAINBOW passages which show Alahim's faithfulness to his covenant.

We see John describing Messiah in a spiritual imagery. The rainbow on his head shows that Messiah has got the covenant in his mind which he has with his elect always. A continuous/perpetual reminder of that covenant.

Re 10:1 ¶ And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

We see a similar imagery when John describes Alahim's throne, he mentions that there was a RAINBOW roung about the throne.

Revelation 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

Because of Alahim's covenant with LIVING CREATURES these will never be consumed by the wrath of Alahim.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Yahuah , I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Alahim is mindful of his covenant which he made.

Now for the vision of the 4 LIVING CREATURES and the SPIRITUAL IMAGERY

Ezekiel 1:5-6, 10 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. [6] And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. [10] As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

This is an imagery of his elect which have the likeness of Messiah in them and the 4 faces are symbolic of the 4 gospels(the true gospel of Messiah) in all ages which goes out to the ends of the earth saving Alahim's remnant.

Ezekiel 1:13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

These living creatures were like burning coals of fire which is their cleansing in the refiners fire of Great tribulation.

 Ge 15:17 ¶ And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.

If you have read the post on Am I weaned or under suck we saw the 5 sacrifices which Alahim commanded Abraham to lay which point out to the sacrifice of Messiah and the burning lamp of fire between the divided pieces of the sacrifice shows the fire of Great Tribulation that Messiah himself went through and so do his people.

 Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Yahuah is my Alahim.

Now coming back to the throne where John saw was surrounded by the RAINBOW and in the midst and round the throne were the four beasts full of eyes before, behind and within and cry out day and night acknowledging the YAHUAHSHIP of CHRIST.

Revelation 4:6-8 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. [7] And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. [8] And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him ; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Yahuah Alahim Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

John saw the same four living creatures of Ezekiel and describes them as four beasts around the throne within that covenant of RAINBOW

Re 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of Alahim and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

Revelation 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

Notice the words COME AND SEE preached by one of the four beasts which show elect have the understanding and invite others to come and see/understand the Revelation of Messiah.Also notice that John says these 4 beasts have eyes before and behind and within which is symbolic of complete revelation of who Messiah is. 

The symbolism of  the beasts full of eyes

Before: foresight, seeing and understanding prophecy
 Behind: understand prophecy which was fulfilled 
Within: DEEP THINGS OF GOD/hidden mysteries

They cry day and night and acknowledge Alahim who was who is and who is to come.

Who was who is and who is to come is in response to their understanding of who Alahim was (eyes behind) who is (eyes within) who is to come( eyes in the front). They have a complete picture and revelation of the mystery of Messiah. Who he was, how he came out of Alahim and went back to Alahim.

Ezekiel saw these living creatures bearing the glory of Alahim.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of Alahim, and not of us.

There is so much spiritual imagery in Alahim's word. Finally the rainbow around the throne with the 4 living creatures or beasts within that rainbow is a beautiful picture of Alahim's covenant with his elect

Revelation 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.


Eze 1:26 ¶ And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the YAHUAH. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.