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My response in Blue:

Quote: Look you haven't develop a  doctrine on just those two scriptures.  You have to have gotten information outside the Bible, which is in violation of Rev 22:18.  You mentioned the Maccabees. That's a violation because it is not a part of Alahim's Word.  [One]  Don't preach to be about the catholics bible because Alahim show me they are not of Messiah.

[Two (a)] The books of  jasher, Nathan , prophecy of Ahijah, Iddo are not part of the Bible, so Alahim did not see fit to put them in because (possibly) they were not completely faithful.  So they are a test to those who would look outside the Bible and develop doctrines which also are not faithful to the Bible.

(b) Also your statement>"Search and u will never find in the bible what this feast was all about which Messiah himself observed" reveals the temptation to which you have succumbed.  You were drawn to "look" outside the Bible to information that CANNOT be consider from Alahim, but from man. And we know how corrupt man has been. End Quote

You accuse me of getting information outside the bible. You are saying as though the dates 1988, 1994, May 21st 2011, Oct 2011 and now Oct 2015 are mentioned in the bible? These are dates formulated by carnal men and derived from a calendar which is man made by adding and multiplying ages of patriarchs and men from bible. 2 dates have failed and yet you are deceived by the beast to believe a 3rd date and then there will be a 4th date and the story never ends. Let Alahim be the judge. I myself was deceived by this but thank Alahim that this deception worked out for my good because Messiah opened my eyes to see who Mystery Babylon is.
This information you are boasting about is neither found in the pages of the bible but yet you derived it so you violated Rev 22:18.
I made it clear to you that I did not formulate a doctrine with a date in it when I shared with you on Hanukah. I was only showing Daniel's 1335 days because the prophecy to us is spiritual. Moreover if you were a true bible student you would search out the matter to understand what feast of dedication/Hanukah means because Jews observed it and so did Messiah. Jews still observe it.

Moreover the prophecy had a literal fulfillment when Alexander the great divided his kingdom with his 4 generals and Daniel prophesied of this. Here is the prophecy.

Da 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

I am not asking you to look beyond the bible to formulate a doctrine but then is Alahim just casually telling us that those who wait till 1335 days are blessed? Is it?

Da 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Alahim uses these numbers spiritually teaching us truths from his word through prophecy which was fulfilled literally. Messiah died exactly at the time of Passover/Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) and scripture says Re 19:10 ......for the testimony of Yahusha is the spirit of prophecy. This testimony of Messiah is borne by the elect of Messiah and Alahim uses the number 1260 or time, times and dividing of time to show that they carry this testimony. Alahim uses the Jewish feasts to show the setting of these spiritual numbers so that we understand the prophecy. Hanukah/Chanukah was exactly 75 days from the day of Atonement 1260+75 =1335 days of Daniel.

You folks got the 2300 days wrong as you see it in 1988 when according to your wonder beastly calendar it started then but Daniel's prophecy of 2300 days was fulfilled in the days when the Greece Empire put it fangs in Jerusalem and the temple was rededicated and hence the Jews celebrate Chanukah/Hanukah to this day. Your wonder calendar ignores this feast because the beast will never understand the significance of true prophecy.

Here are the verses: Da 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 15 ¶ And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

This happened around 167 BC when Alexander's Grecian empire was divided among 4 notable horns.

Da 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

Prophecy is always spiritual and though literally fulfilled in the days when the temple was cleansed and rededicated by the candle stick being lit and daily restored (Hanukah) the true temple of Messiah is his elect and hence the time of the end will have a likewise spiritual fulfillment. Unfortunately the beast doesn't understand spiritual things so by his dark sentences wisdom he derived a calendar with dates which are multiples and addition of dates and ages to arrive at dates which are deceiving. While the date prediction as per the calendar was wrong you still sent it across to me saying Glory to Alahim. How can you be so deceived to believe it? If May 21 2011 and Oct 21 2011 did not happen then all those formulas to arrive at these dates itself is wrong and the information outside the bible straight from the pit of hell.

Da 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said,Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

Alahim uses the 1290 and 1335 days of Daniel 8 from a literal fulfillment (in Grecian rule) to show us it’s spirituality. He further established this by a literal fulfillment of death of Messiah on day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), and pouring of Holy Ghost on day of Pentecost (Shavu'ot) and Hanukah/Festival of lights to end it by restoring the candle light in New Jerusalem and he is the light of the New Jerusalem.

Re 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of Alahim did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The Abomination of desolation is nothing but a diluted gospel which doesn't save because the gospel looks spiritual but it is from Satan because he is in the midst of it. I already shared with you the Zec 5:6-11 passages which show this.

Zechariah 5:6-11 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. [7] And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. [8] And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. [9] Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. [10] Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? [11] And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base. 

Ephah was a sin offering and the woman in the midst of it was Mystery Babylon which dilutes the gospel. It’s like the image set up by Antiochus in the Jewish temple (during the Grecian empire) which was Abominable.

Re 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Messiah’s servants were seduced and fornicated with the whore and they repent of their fornication of those abominable doctrines of Mystery Babylon.

Quote: {Three]  " I will come" is Spiritual which Alahim shows us; so is the same as His Judgment upon the world upto the 'last day'.

[Four] The removal of the candlestick speaks of the church age, and perfectly aligns and parallels with Alahim's judgments He brought upon the nation of Israel at the cross, as the same He has done on the churches, because of the heart of man. As the parable in Matt 21:33- 41 shows.

Hence, Matt 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men (Israelites), and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen (Church age), which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

When Messiah was crucified Alahim rent the temple vale into and accomplished two exposed purposes, the way to the YAHUAH was opened directly to His elect (finished with the nation of Israel and given to the gentiles/church age) and (Messiah) He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease as prophecied in Daniel 9:24-27.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I hope your understanding of this passage isn't what the churches have been teaching that the one who causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease is the devil and not Messiah. If you understand it is Messiah then we can move forward.  If you want to see an excellent study that shows it has to be Messiah and is in perfect harmony with the whole Bible then check this out.  It is well worth the comparing scriptures with scriptures.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/70wks.html

The vineyard in the parable above represents Alahim's place where Alahim was working His salvation (fruits) and Alahim has shown this same vineyard that was given to 'otherhusbandmen' is prophesied in Isaiah 5.  And for sure we have a perfect timeline as to when Messiah was crucified on April 1, 33AD  of if you prefer was on the Passover (a Friday) 11045 years from creation.

There are thousands of scriptures, that Alahim uses to bring His Word into perfect understanding as regarding these last days.

Shodan, my hope is Alahim will give you the desire to check out all this and much more and not lean on the studies you have already 'accepted' as sound doctrine.  If you do and if you find any discrepancies. I will gladly look at them

But in the end all understanding from Alahim (His Spirit) will be His doing and will be found 'only' from the Bible.

Glory to Alahim in the highest,

Roger

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You are misinterpreting Daniel 9:27. The One week/7 days of Daniel is spiritual

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The covenant made was with his sacrifice (Passover). Messiah is the Passover lamb. The Israelites were told to eat unleavened bread with it and the eating of the unleavened bread was for 7 days which was a reminder of their SOJOURN (for details on blessedness of Sojourning read my study 430 or 400 years in Egypt which is on my blog)

De 16:1 ¶ Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim: for in the month of Abib the YAHUAH thy Alahim brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the YAHUAH shall choose to place his name there.3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.4 And there shall be no leavened bread seen with thee in all thy coast seven days; neither shall there anything of the flesh, which thou sacrificedst the first day at even, remain all night until the morning.

But because his people who are called by his name fornicate with the whore (leaven of sin) and forget their sojourn and start living lawless lives fornicating with Mystery Babylon by following her false doctrines he causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease by allowing all of them to go into captivity. This picture can be seen by the woman in the midst of the ephah in the Zechariah passages.

Ho 13:6 According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.7 Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.9 ¶ O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.

The Yahuah says he will be like a lion, as a leopard and as a bear (beastly kingdoms of Satan) bereaved of her whelps to his people and tear them up. These all include foolish and wise virgins. All slumbered and slept and forgot their SOJOURN.

Mt 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

The midnight cry came from the false prophet of the 8^th beast himself who is of the 7^th (Rev 17:11) and not from a so called secret coming of Messiah to take away the candle stick but through the calendar and eschatology you are following now which came from the mouth of the beast. Hearing this cry both foolish and wise virgins came out to meet the bridegroom which shows they both were deceived but wise understood and saw this deception but foolish continue with the beast and his wonder.

Mt 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

By his tail (false prophet) Satan cast the third part of the stars of heaven (elect) and cast them to the earth.

Re 12:4 And his (dragon’s) tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Isa 9:14 Therefore the YAHUAH will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

He causes fire to come down from heaven (as though it was a wonder from Alahim himself) and your calendar and eschatology is this wonder.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Da 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the Alahim of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

That is how the Yahuah met his people as the lion, leopard and as a bear bereaved of her whelps.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Da 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

When the false prophet of the 8^th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7^th seal which shows the time is very short.

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The half an hour of Rev 8:1 and midst of week of Daniel 9:27 is synonymous to the MIDNIGHT CRY to come out to meet the bridegroom. By this cry the wise virgins came out to only see that they were deceived and Messiah gives his elect understanding by showing them who MYSTERY BABYLON is and that they must repent of their wickedness of fornicating with her. Their deception by the beast worked to their awakening to truth because they heard and understood who Mystery Babylon is now from the voice that came from heaven.

Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

The focus of GT is Messiah and his elect and not corporate churches. We have sinned not they only. Your eschatology is ‘I’m safe outside the church’ and woe to the churches but the beast himself called you outside the church and what are you doing? 

My prayer is that the Yahuah open the eyes of your understanding that you come out of this deception and see who Mystery Babylon is.

Quote: If you get the last one answered just from the Bible.  Then please answer this one. 

When the false prophet of the 8

^th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7^th seal which shows the time is very short.

Show how you arrived at the "8th beast cried and there was silence in heaven for a space of half an hour". End Quote

The beast is given unto him a mouth. His power is in his MOUTH because by it he gives the cry to go out to meet the bridegroom and all go to out to meet the false christ and believe a false gospel.These are spiritual things and only can be understood by comparing spiritual with spiritual

Re 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

 19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Re 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of Alahim Almighty.

Now for the verses to show this.John talks of ten horns/kings which have received no kingdom as yet-these shall receive power as kings one hour with the beast. We must see in the context that John is saying these things

Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Now for the context:

Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

There are eight beastly rules of Satan throughout time on earth and the eighth is of the seven. John is told here is the mind which hath wisdom and this wisdom is that Mystery Babylon is ruling on all these 7 beastly rules. 

Read verse 10 there are seven kings and five are fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon,Medes Persia and Greece are the 5 beasts fallen) and one is (Rome was ruling when John wrote Revelation and went on to be the longest rule as this was the 4th dreaded beast of Daniel 7) and one is yet to come (the 7th beast which was the little horn from Rome-all those who came out of Rome). Are you with me till here?

Now verse 11 the beast that was and is not and yet is, is the eighth and is from the seven and goes into perdition. The ten horns/kings which have no kingdom yet(because the 8th beast was not yet come) will receive power one hour with the beast and they will give their power and strength to this beast.

Now for the space of half an hour

The opening of seals is the revealing of events which were sealed or hidden. Daniel was told that the vision was shut up till the time of the end

Da 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Yahuah, what shall be the end of these things?

 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end

Now we read that when Messiah opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for half an hour. This was the darkest part of the hour because this 8th beast was given the mouth and power was in his mouth. He gave the midnight cry and took all (both foolish and wise virgins) to meet the false Messiah

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The wise virgins fornicated with the WHORE and hence there was silence of the true gospel in the kingdom of heaven for half and hour while they fornicated while the 10 horns/kings which had no kingdom yet continued to rule with the beast for the complete one hour. The silence is broken with the voice from Alahim out of heaven to come out of MYSTERY BABYLON. The wise realized that the call was to come out of Mystery Babylon and not a local church and Mystery Babylon is the lawlessness within and not outside.

The man of sin seated in the temple is not Satan sitting in the church but us. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit and the works of wood, hay and stubble will be burnt by the fire of GT and elect will suffer loss but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire.

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of Alahim, and that the Spirit of Alahim dwelleth in you?

 17 If any man defile the temple of Alahim, him shall Alahim destroy; for the temple of Alahim is holy, which temple ye are.

Paul spoke saying that day will not come until the falling away comes first and the falling away is the elect of Alahim fornicating with the WHORE

2Th 2:3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The call to come out of Mystery Babylon brought the unsealing of the prophecies of  Daniel which were shut up till the time of the end. The elect now understand that the false prophet's cry to meet the bridegroom was to take them captive to a false Messiah and a false gospel and they come out of Mystery Babylon and stand afar off for the fear of her torment and weep and lament and mourn.

One more thing in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins the foolish virgins lamps were already gone out

Mt 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

In the candle stick the continuous supply of oil is given so that the fire keeps burning but their fire was already out and they met the false Messiah who satisfied their desire and gave them the strange fire.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 

While the wise virgins works were burned by fire (because they fornicated with the whore: slumbered and slept) they themselves were saved yet as so by the fire which was still there in their lamps because that was the true fire from heaven.

1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.