Sunday, April 6, 2014

Face of the Father

In the study on this blog 'Cherubs guarding the Pattern' we saw how Alahim used the Angelic Mediation to represent him till the promised seed came who was his true representation as Col 1:15 says that he is the image of the invisible Alahim. We saw that the law was given through angelic mediation in the hands of a mediator.

Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. 

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; 

Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Yahuah (Messiah), and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 

In this study we will see who is the 'Face of the Father' which the angels saw beholding it in heaven as stated in Matthew 18:10 in spiritual vs spiritual comparison.


The law was given to Moses who was the mediator and the people entreated that they not hear Alahim's voice lest they die and even Moses said he exceedingly feared and quaked-so terrible was the sight.

Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) 

Yet he received this with Angelic Mediation. A similitude of Yahuah


 Nu 12:8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the YAHUAH (Yahuah) shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 

Hold your breath if you say this was Messiah. Please read and re read Rev 1:1


Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Yahusha Messiah, which Alahim gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; 
and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 


People here would now accuse me saying I said that the angelic mediation was done away with as it stood as a shadow until Messiah came who is the true representation of Alahim. He is the image of the invisible Alahim. Yes the shadow was done away with. It's a book of prophecy with signification (sealed prophecy) given through Angelic mediation because no man has seen the glorified Messiah, his DEITY is hidden and is like a water mark which carnal men will never see.

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Yahusha: worship Alahim: for the testimony of Yahusha is the spirit of prophecy. 

It was a SIGNIFIED BOOK (imageries, spiritual and word pictures, symbolisms, parabolic etc) and only as Alahim would open the eyes of his elect would they understand. How did John receive it?


Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Yahuah's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 

The Signification by an angel is an indication that the mystery of Alahim which was opened to the elect still remains a mystery for those not chosen for salvation. That's why at the voice of the 7th angel the mystery of Alahim will be completely unfolded.


Re 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of Alahim should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 

Re 1:1 ¶ The Revelation of Yahusha Messiah, which Alahim gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The Revelation of Yahusha Messiah which Alahim gave unto him (spirit of prophecy) TO SHOW UNTO HIS SERVANTS

Now let's read Jude 1:9 parallel to Zec 3 

Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Yahuah rebuke thee. 


in the spiritual comparison with

2Pe 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Yahuah. 


Isn't it clear with so much evidence that the Angels stood guarding the Pattern and the Pattern is Messiah who is the image of the invisible Alahim. If not then it makes so sense that there is a comparison made between him and Angels

Heb 1:4 ¶ Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

The shadow for mediation vs the reality that the mediator did not take on angels but the seed of Abraham. An act of will is displayed when it says 'took not on'. 


Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to Alahim, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

You and me have no choice to take on something-we were created but he was not. The plan of Alahim is revealed through the Mediator who represents both parties and is PERFECT because we are not come to Sinai where a beast should be shot through if it touched the mountain. So terrible was the sight and yet it was a similitude of Alahim in Angelic representation.

Heb 12:18 ¶ For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

We are come to a Alahim who can be now HANDLED and yet we are not stoned or consumed. That's his mercy.

1Jo 1:1 ¶ That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;


Unitarians look at his simplicity and their minds have been corrupted because they have missed their Creator to demean him attributing him as a creature.

2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Messiah.


Once the PATTERN comes the shadow which stood for the Pattern must bow down to him in worship because the Pattern is TRUE REPRESENTATION OF GOD HIMSELF which creature lacks.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into THAT WORLD, he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.

The creature be it angels or mankind who connect to him are connected to Alahim's hupostasis because he is Alahim to man, without him no creature could connect to Alahim's transcendent hupostasis. Whoever tried was stoned to death or killed instantly. That's the point.


In the creation account in Genesis is hidden Alahim's true Pattern in the shadow i.e. the Heavenly in the Earthy, the Eternal in the Temporal.

Alahim did not create LIGHT on day one, he brought forth the light to his creation which already existed i.e. the light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim. This utterance was prophetic because the lights ruling the creation sun, moon and stars were not created on Day 1 but on day 4

Ge 1:14 ¶ And Alahim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And Alahim made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And Alahim set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and Alahim saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.


From day 1 to day 4 the elect creatures (prophetic as none were yet created but were in his purpose as Eph 1:4-5 states) was lit by the glory of Alahim until Alahim showed his purpose of designing this universe by sealing the manifestation of this Light to be revealed through the face of Messiah when he created temporary lights to rule the day and night. The signification of mediation was instituted in which was hidden the true mediation which would be revealed through Yahusha.

The NIGHT of Gen 1:4-5 is spiritual and corresponds to the darkness which is absence of light for all those who would not be chosen for election by grace and the Light would be seen by all those chosen for his grace.

Ro 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Alahim by creating the temporal creation to make way for the new creation is prophetically showing the NEED FOR a SAVIOR to redeem his elect creation from the absence of this light/night/darkness by subjecting the creature to vanity by subjecting the same in hope as Paul says in Rom 8:20.

2Co 4:6 For Alahim, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim in the face of Yahusha Messiah.

In other words Alahim was prophetically manifesting the light of the knowledge of his glory in MEDIATION and this was the PATTERN which was purely spiritual. A relation to his OWN TRANSCENDENT HUPOSTASIS. The true Mediator who would come out of his own constitution as the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON would bring forth this hidden wisdom/light through himself being face to face with creation.

Ge 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were createdin the day that the YAHUAH Alahim made the earth and the heavens,

That's why we have Alahim recording in Gen 2:4 that he created the HEAVENS and THE EARTH (referring to the New creation we would be by being in Messiah) in the day he made the earth and the heavens (Temporal creation being subject to vanity not willing by the creature but by the reason of HIM who subjected it in hope Rom 8:20).

Col 1:27 To whom Alahim would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Messiah in you, the hope of glory


2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Messiah, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

This was the Pattern I am talking about which Alahim guarded all along. All the mediation that happened until Messiah the true mediator came stood as a shadow. Alahim wouldn't go against his own pattern by revealing his face to his creature before the APPOINTED TIME.

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in Alahim, who created all things through Yahusha Messiah:


This doesn't mean that Yahusha was created but would come out of Alahim being related to his own substance and hence ruling as GOD in the new creation image. Adam as a created being made of dust lacked connection to Alahim's hupostasis but Messiah as the heavenly is related to his hupostasis because he came out from him (John 16:27, 17:8).

This is the spiritual vs spiritual and outside of the spiritual is the carnal man who cannot see the Pattern and hence falls short of the glory of Alahim. 
If Messiah did not come out from Alahim being related to his hupostasis then my faith in him will not connect me to Alahim and hence my faith is in vain and Messiah being a creature would be also subject to vanity and then who would he HOPE IN to save him? as per Rom 8:20

So Messiah has to be excluded from being a creature as per Rom 8:20.
Lastly if Alahim designed it this way then all his appearances in OT were through signification or else we are making Alahim a liar who said that the fellowship of his mystery was revealed through the apostles and the prophets.


Unitarianism falls headlong because Unitarian's teach that Messiah was a creature and so that makes Messiah the hope giver subject to vanity himself? How can one believe in a pitiable Messiah who is himself subject to vanity who has no connection to Alahim's own transcendent hupostasis?

Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 ¶ And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from Alahim, whose name was John.
7 The same (John the Baptist) came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

The creation account has in it the hidden purpose of Alahim. While Unitarians are seeing the witness to the light they are not willing to see the LIGHT himself.

A good start will be if they identify what the light is between day 1 and 4 because the time keepers were not yet created. If one see's that light as created light then was Alahim created because he himself is that LIGHT

1Jo 1:5 ¶ This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that Alahim is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


Don't you see the Mediation of this LIGHT in the Son and from him to us? Without the missing link (Son) you couldn't have got even one ounce of that light because HE IS GOD's PATTERN being face to face with creation as Alahim to us.

Joh 8:12 ¶ Then spake Yahusha again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Lastly without being connected to that LIGHT he would have darkness in him which would make him subject to vanity as Adam was. This is what Unitariangs are not seeing. Even angels who represented Alahim in Mediation stood as shadows and they couldn't be perfect without Messiah or else if they were perfect they wouldn't be learning about him through the things they see from the church.


1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in Alahim, who created all things by Yahusha Messiah:

10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of Alahim,

If they were perfect apart from Messiah there was no need for them to get the light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim as they would already have it.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 


So whom did Angels see as their Alahim? Does Alahim have a Face?

Scriptures teach Alahim is the MOST HIGH GOD and Most high does mean dwelling above the heavens and the earth. No creature can get there, no not even angels. 


Ps 113:5 Who is like unto the YAHUAH our Alahim, who dwelleth on high,
6 Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!

Yet the same Alahim humbled himself to behold the things that are in heaven and in the earth IN CHRIST.


Doesn't Matthew 18:10 tell us that Angels behold the face of the Father in heaven?

Mt 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face (prosopon) of my Father which is in heaven.

Heb 9:24 For Messiah is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence (prosopon) of Alahim for us:

KJV translates 'prosopon' as face which is correct but in Heb 9:24 is INCORRECTLY translated as PRESENCE. The correct interpretation would be

Heb 9:24 For Messiah is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the FACE OF GOD FOR US:

Now let's see Angel Gabriel's testimony

Lu 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence (Greek word: enopion: means ' BEFORE') of Alahim; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.

The verse would read Lu 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand BEFORE GOD

Re 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our Alahim, and the power of his Messiah: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before (enopion) our Alahim day and night.


If we say Gabriel stands before Alahim's face literally then the Devil also stands before his face literally. But that's not true. A simple word look up shows that this standing is 'FIGURATIVE'.

In the book of Job Satan came among the sons of Alahim to appear before Alahim. How are to we understand it? Does it mean Satan has access to be before the throne of Alahim. No not at all. His coming was among the sons of Alahim who gathered before Alahim in worship i.e. here on earth.

I'm not suggesting Gabriel stands in the same way because definitely Gabriel came from heaven and no one has gone up there to see how he stands but what is revealed here is he stood before Alahim in guarding his Pattern and Satan's standing before Alahim was in working against his Pattern.

Matt 18:10 needs to be reading in the spiritual light of Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Mt 18:10 spiritually means is that the Angels who are sent to minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation (little ones) see the face of the Father by learning from the work of the Holy Spirit in those chosen for salvation

Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of Alahim,

'SEEN OF ANGELS' is parallel to Heb 1:6

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into THAT WORLD he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.

The literal seeing the face was when Messiah appeared in the FACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN when he was glorified. Angels beholding the face of the Father in heaven cannot be taken literally but figuratively.

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of Alahim, and of the Father, and of Messiah;

One can't give the Father a face apart from Messiah?


Angels were definitely in the presence of Alahim but being in his presence doesn't mean he had a FACE. Alahim spoke to angels in the same way he spoke with the prophets and i.e through the spirit of prophecy

Ps 18:10 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.

Can wind be seen? How was this riding of Alahim upon a cherub? It was through MEDIATION, it was through the spirit of prophecy when angels mediated for him.

Joh 1:18 No man (oudeis) hath seen Alahim at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.


Look up the word in Greek. It means 'NOT EVEN ONE' but KJV translates it as 'No man' because all translators believed in the perfection and fall from there. They believed that 'Angels' were PERFECT.


The verse should read Joh 1:18 NOT EVEN ONE hath seen Alahim at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.


The same word 'oudeis' is used in 1 Tim 6:16


1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which NOT EVEN ONE (oudeis) can approach unto; whom NO MAN (anthropos) hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting.
Amen.


Yes you read it correctly -the Greek word for Man is 'Anthropos' but see how KJV translated 'oudies' as 'MAN' in the first part of the verse. Why? Because they all believed that ' Heaven is inherent to Alahim'. Alahim is beyond the heavens and that is why he is called 'MOST HIGH'. 


It wouldn't make sense for a declaration as stated in Heb 1:6


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into THAT WORLD, he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.
Question for you to ponder on? Why would angels desire to look down into the church when they would have already been in a PERFECT ENVIRONMENT beholding the face of the FATHER? If they looked down that shows their knowledge was not PERFECTED until they saw who their Alahim was.






2 comments:

Unknown said...

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL with, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Signification by His Angel is also taught in the above verse.


Gen 1:2 teaches symbolically the creature subjected to vanity in hope of Gen 1:3

Ge 1:2 And the earth was without form (vanity), and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Anthony Cedrick D'Souza said...

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Psa 18:10 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind (Spirit, H7307).

This is surely teaching God using Cherubs to guard His pattern- Christ. The wind above is 'spirit'.


Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering SPIRITS, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?