Quote one must consider if the angels are to worship their creator. if the
angels were created and the son has created everything that was created
--- we then must consider ; we are missing something here .End Quote
Knowing who Messiah is was a mystery and it was hid since the beginning of the world in Alahim (Divinely planned within himself). Alahim is invisible and all things were made in perspective of Messiah who is the image of the invisible Alahim. Here are some scriptures to consider which teach that the manifold wisdom of Alahim is made known by the church to the principalities and powers in heavenly places (Angels in ranks or authority)
Eph 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Messiah;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in Alahim, who created all things by Yahusha Messiah:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of Alahim,
11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Messiah Yahusha our Yahuah:
The angels understand the mystery of Alahim through the work of Alahim in the church in revealing who Messiah is
1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
Yahusha in being externalized from Alahim (came out from Alahim John 16:27, John 17:8) became like his brethren in every way because it pleased him to be like his brethren in every aspect. In this lowly form (made little lower than the angels as Psalms 8 teaches) for the first time the angels would see their creator and hence the declaration
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.
If the angels already knew who their Alahim was then this declaration would not make any sense as they would have seen Messiah creating them as Eternal Son as Trinity doctrine teaches and all these scriptures would mean nothing. The Mystery was unfolded through the revelation of who Messiah is. He is Alahim in immanence, both of angels and mankind and beasts etc.
All things were made through him and for him: Both in heaven and on earth which makes him firstborn over all creation that he may be pre-eminent.
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible Alahim, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him
Creation is attributed to him in transcendence when Alahim planned within himself that he would manifest to his creation in being face to face with his creation. The Light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim through the face of Messiah.
2Co 4:6 For Alahim, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim in the face of Yahusha Messiah.
Moreover Paul speaks about this mystery of Alahim. He says that the mystery of godliness is great
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Notice the words 'seen of angels'. Prior to this angels did not see their Creator as Alahim in transcendence dwells in an unapproachable light
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which nothing (oudeis) can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
We also see Paul speaking of the mystery of Alahim's will which he purposed in himself that in the fulness of time he might gather together in one all things in Messiah both in heaven (angels) and all things on earth (man, beast, kingdoms etc)
Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Messiah, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
The whole family in heaven and earth is named/related to Alahim the Father through Messiah who sits as the visible image of the invisible Alahim on Alahim's throne forever and ever.
Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
1Pe 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of Alahim; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
The angels are made subordinate/subject to Messiah when their understanding is opened to see Messiah as their Alahim in immanence
Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of Alahim, and of the Father, and of Messiah;
Finally coming back to 1 Tim 3:16 Alahim was manifest in the flesh (Word was made flesh), justified in the Spirit: The Word justified is not in the literal sense of he being made righteous as we are but being rendered in the Spirit ( as the Quickening Spirit 1 Corin 15:45, 2 Corin 3:17) and seen(signifies an earnest but more continued inspection) of angels which ties up with the verse where Peter speaks of angels desiring to look into the revelation of who Alahim is through the work of Alahim through his church.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Knowing who Messiah is was a mystery and it was hid since the beginning of the world in Alahim (Divinely planned within himself). Alahim is invisible and all things were made in perspective of Messiah who is the image of the invisible Alahim. Here are some scriptures to consider which teach that the manifold wisdom of Alahim is made known by the church to the principalities and powers in heavenly places (Angels in ranks or authority)
Eph 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Messiah;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in Alahim, who created all things by Yahusha Messiah:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of Alahim,
11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Messiah Yahusha our Yahuah:
The angels understand the mystery of Alahim through the work of Alahim in the church in revealing who Messiah is
1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
Yahusha in being externalized from Alahim (came out from Alahim John 16:27, John 17:8) became like his brethren in every way because it pleased him to be like his brethren in every aspect. In this lowly form (made little lower than the angels as Psalms 8 teaches) for the first time the angels would see their creator and hence the declaration
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.
If the angels already knew who their Alahim was then this declaration would not make any sense as they would have seen Messiah creating them as Eternal Son as Trinity doctrine teaches and all these scriptures would mean nothing. The Mystery was unfolded through the revelation of who Messiah is. He is Alahim in immanence, both of angels and mankind and beasts etc.
All things were made through him and for him: Both in heaven and on earth which makes him firstborn over all creation that he may be pre-eminent.
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible Alahim, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him
Creation is attributed to him in transcendence when Alahim planned within himself that he would manifest to his creation in being face to face with his creation. The Light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim through the face of Messiah.
2Co 4:6 For Alahim, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of Alahim in the face of Yahusha Messiah.
Moreover Paul speaks about this mystery of Alahim. He says that the mystery of godliness is great
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Notice the words 'seen of angels'. Prior to this angels did not see their Creator as Alahim in transcendence dwells in an unapproachable light
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which nothing (oudeis) can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
We also see Paul speaking of the mystery of Alahim's will which he purposed in himself that in the fulness of time he might gather together in one all things in Messiah both in heaven (angels) and all things on earth (man, beast, kingdoms etc)
Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Messiah, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
The whole family in heaven and earth is named/related to Alahim the Father through Messiah who sits as the visible image of the invisible Alahim on Alahim's throne forever and ever.
Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
1Pe 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of Alahim; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
The angels are made subordinate/subject to Messiah when their understanding is opened to see Messiah as their Alahim in immanence
Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of Alahim, and of the Father, and of Messiah;
Finally coming back to 1 Tim 3:16 Alahim was manifest in the flesh (Word was made flesh), justified in the Spirit: The Word justified is not in the literal sense of he being made righteous as we are but being rendered in the Spirit ( as the Quickening Spirit 1 Corin 15:45, 2 Corin 3:17) and seen(signifies an earnest but more continued inspection) of angels which ties up with the verse where Peter speaks of angels desiring to look into the revelation of who Alahim is through the work of Alahim through his church.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
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