Saturday, March 1, 2014

Unitarinism and their demeaning of Messiah-part 2

In the previous post on Unitarianism and their demeaning Messiah Part 1 we saw an Unitarian approach of understanding and only taking scriptures which show Messiah’s mortality and dependency on Alahim and twisting/ignoring  those which directly show his deity.

We also saw Unitarianism view  actually portrays Alahim falling short of love because he created a Lamb to do the dirty job while he himself was a spectator whereas scriptures teach that he became part of his creation and that is true love. We also saw that Alahim’s love is defined by his giving of his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON who came out from his bosom.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen Alahim at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

We also touch based on Dividing Asunder and Messiah’s claim of coming out of Alahim.  We then saw that Uni’s don’t understand Mediatorship and misrepresent the Intermediate position Messiah took for us in whom Alahim and man met. Alahim BESTOWED him glory, gifts, revelation etc so that it could be transmitted to all those who were predestined to be confirmed to the image of the Son and are adopted sons in the Sonship of Messiah.

Finally we saw that when Messiah rose from the dead he lead captivity captive and gave gifts unto men and he ascended far above the heavens and fills all things. We also saw his attribute of searching the hearts and reins of man which is only reserved as an attribute internal to Alahim as stated in 1 Corin 2:11.
In this part we will see some arguments Uni’s bring to the table to show Messiah as a created being.

De 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Unitarianism interpret passages where Messiah states that he is Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end , in other words claims which Yahuahh made as Yahuahh putting words in Messiah’s mouth and he speaking on behalf of Yahuahh as Yahuahh just as in OT the Angel of the Yahuah did.

Examples: Re 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

These scriptures are direct words which Yahuahh spoke in OT. Here they are:

Isa 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the YAHUAH (Yahuahh), the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the YAHUAH (Yahuahh), and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no Alahim formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the YAHUAH; and beside me there is no saviour.

While at face value the evidence presented seems to make a Unitarian sensible but when compared spiritual with spiritual the Unitarian view is deceptive and shows that a person not understanding who Messiah is and from where he came will die in his sins (never be saved).

While it’s true that Yahuahh said that he would raise up a PROPHET and put his words in his mouth and Messiah affirms that in John 8 that he speaks to the world those things which he heard of him, a little digging in deeper would show that he is speaking Yahuahh’s words because he came out from Yahuahh as claimed by him in John 16:27 & John 17:8

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Yahusha saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

When did Messiah hear from Yahuahh?

Ps 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

Again here Unitarianism fail to see the MEDIATORSHIP and the spirit of prophecy which is the testimony of Yahusha.

Joh 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath Alahim the Father sealed

Messiah was sealed in prophecy. He was sealed in every word that proceeded from the mouth of Yahuahh.  In the OT pattern shown to Moses, in the feeding of the manna in the wilderness, in the cloud that overshadowed them, In the water they drank from the Rock in the wilderness, in the ark of the covenant which had the manna, the rod of Aaron that budded and the tablets of covenant etc etc. IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM.

Re 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Yahusha: worship Alahim: for the testimony of Yahusha is the spirit of prophecy.

1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Messiah which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Messiah, and the glory that should follow.

Peter says that the prophets inquired and searched diligently and prophesied to us of the grace that would come to us and it was the Spirit of Messiah in them which testified beforehand the sufferings of Messiah and the glory that should follow.

Ps 91:1 ¶ He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

De 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the YAHUAH (Yahuahh) doth man live.

Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Re 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

He is the manna, the angels food (Psalms 78:25) that Alahim feeds those chosen for his salvation. He is the NEW NAME  WRITTEN which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.He is Yahuahh’s SECRET PLACE, him had Yahuahh SEALED. Why would Yahuahh give so much importance to a created being? Doesn’t Yahuahh say in Isaiah 42:8 that he would not give his glory to any other? And in

Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

Yahuahh’s name is memorial in all generations because Yahuahh comes from the root word ‘hayah’ which means ‘TO BECOME’ and the prophecy that whosover calleth on the name of Yahuahh shall be saved is fulfilled in the calling upon the name of Yahusha the new name given to those only who understand and are saved. Yahuahh’s transcendency fulfilled in his immanency in Yahusha the image of the invisible Alahim.

Isa 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the YAHUAH (Yahuahh): for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

Ro 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him (Yahusha)  shall not be ashamed.

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the YAHUAH (Yahuahh) shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the YAHUAH hath said, and in the remnant whom the YAHUAH shall call.

Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Yahuah (Yahusha) shall be saved.

1Co 1:2 Unto the church of Alahim which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Messiah Yahusha, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Yahusha Messiah our Yahuah, both theirs and ours:

The glory that Alahim speaks of not giving another in Isaiah 42:8 & 48:11 is not the one BESTOWED to be transmitted to us but INHERENT which only Messiah has because he has ascended far above all things and fills all things (Eph 4:10).The reward bestowed to him (glory) to be transmitted to us is different than what is inherent to him. By his bestowing  these gifts/reward to us doesn’t make us Alahim as Uni’s state to make their case of argument because they do not understand the difference between what’s bestowed and what’s inherent.

Re 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The verse above shows what I am speaking about. The ‘my reward’ is what was bestowed but being first and the last were Yahuahh's own words and the meaning of those words are understood by the claim Messiah makes.

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the ENGRAVING OF HIS SUBSTANCE (charakter autos hypostasis), and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

He is the engraving of his hypostasis ( substance), a tangible evidence of the intangible hypostasis (hypostasis). The words in his mouth is the FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY of what a transcendent Alahim spoke of his presence with his creation in immanence in an image.

Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Though the Son was in the Intermediate position in incarnation and became the man that Alahim should not be mindful of what was inherent to him was the same HONOUR as the Father because he came out from Alahim. Adam means man of low degree and Messiah became LAST ADAM (1 Corin 15:45) i.e the last man of low degree whom Alahim should not be mindful of but was MINDFUL because through him all things consist and he is before all things-the first (firstbegotten over all creation and from the dead) and the last(last man of low degree) just as prophetically told by Yahuahh that he himself was.

Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

The prophecy of being first and the last shows his transcendency from where he came and his immanency where he is face to face with creation as Alahim.

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the YAHUAH (Yahuahh), and my servant (Yahusha) whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no Alahim formed, neither shall there be after me.

Lastly in comparison in John 8:24 where Messiah claims "unless you believe I am he..." here are Yahuahh's words in Isaiah 43:10 where he says that we are his witnesses that he and his servant who he has chosen (Yahusha) that we may know and believe him and understand that it is he who is said " I am he" and before him there was no Alahim formed, neither shall there be after him.

Joh 14:1 ¶ Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in Alahim, believe also in me.

This passage doesn't in anyway show Alahim is multipersonal but the same Alahim manifested in the flesh. Alahim was first time seen by angels (angels now could see and understand that Messiah was their Alahim)

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Alahim was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world to come, he saith, And let all the angels of Alahim worship him.

Heb 1:6 in original Greek says when Alahim brings his firstbegotten into the world to come he said " Let all the angels of Alahim worship him'

2 comments:

Unknown said...

4  The LORD H3068 is high H7311 above all nations H1471, and his glory H3519 above the heavens H8064.

 5  Who is like unto the LORD H3068 our God H430, who dwelleth H3427 on high H1361, note

 6  Who humbleth H8213 himself to behold H7200 the things that are in heaven H8064, and in the earth H776!

Shodan said...

The above comment is from Psalms 113:4-6