Sunday, November 17, 2013

Call to come out

My response in Blue:

Quote: Look you haven't develop a  doctrine on just those two scriptures.  You have to have gotten information outside the Bible, which is in violation of Rev 22:18.  You mentioned the Maccabees. That's a violation because it is not a part of Alahim's Word.  [One]  Don't preach to be about the catholics bible because Alahim show me they are not of Messiah.


[Two (a)] The books of  jasher, Nathan , prophecy of Ahijah, Iddo are not part of the Bible, so Alahim did not see fit to put them in because (possibly) they were not completely faithful.  So they are a test to those who would look outside the Bible and develop doctrines which also are not faithful to the Bible.
(b) Also your statement>"Search and u will never find in the bible what this feast was all about which Messiah himself observed" reveals the temptation to which you have succumbed.  You were drawn to "look" outside the Bible to information that CANNOT be consider from Alahim, but from man. And we know how corrupt man has been. End Quote

You accuse me of getting information outside the bible. You are saying as though the dates 1988, 1994, May 21st 2011, Oct 2011 and now Oct 2015 are mentioned in the bible? These are dates formulated by carnal men and derived from a calendar which is man made by adding and multiplying ages of patriarchs and men from bible. 2 dates have failed and yet you are deceived by the beast to believe a 3rd date and then there will be a 4th date and the story never ends. Let Alahim be the judge. I myself was deceived by this but thank Alahim that this deception worked out for my good because Messiah opened my eyes to see who Mystery Babylon is.
This information you are boasting about is neither found in the pages of the bible but yet you derived it so you violated Rev 22:18.
I made it clear to you that I did not formulate a doctrine with a date in it when I shared with you on Hanukah. I was only showing Daniel's 1335 days because the prophecy to us is spiritual. Moreover if you were a true bible student you would search out the matter to understand what feast of dedication/Hanukah means because Jews observed it and so did Messiah. Jews still observe it.

Moreover the prophecy had a literal fulfillment when Alexander the great divided his kingdom with his 4 generals and Daniel prophesied of this. Here is the prophecy.

Da 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.


 22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
I am not asking you to look beyond the bible to formulate a doctrine but then is Alahim just casually telling us that those who wait till 1335 days are blessed? Is it?

Da 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Alahim uses these numbers spiritually teaching us truths from his word through prophecy which was fulfilled literally. Messiah died exactly at the time of Passover/Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) and scripture says Re 19:10 ......for the testimony of Yahusha is the spirit of prophecy. This testimony of Messiah is borne by the elect of Messiah and Alahim uses the number 1260 or time, times and dividing of time to show that they carry this testimony. Alahim uses the Jewish feasts to show the setting of these spiritual numbers so that we understand the prophecy. Hanukah/Chanukah was exactly 75 days from the day of Atonement 1260+75 =1335 days of Daniel.

You folks got the 2300 days wrong as you see it in 1988 when according to your wonder beastly calendar it started then but Daniel's prophecy of 2300 days was fulfilled in the days when the Greece Empire put it fangs in Jerusalem and the temple was rededicated and hence the Jews celebrate Chanukah/Hanukah to this day. Your wonder calendar ignores this feast because the beast will never understand the significance of true prophecy.

Here are the verses: Da 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 15 ¶ And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

This happened around 167 BC when Alexander's Grecian empire was divided among 4 notable horns.

Da 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

Prophecy is always spiritual and though literally fulfilled in the days when the temple was cleansed and rededicated by the candle stick being lit and daily restored (Hanukah) the true temple of Messiah is his elect and hence the time of the end will have a likewise spiritual fulfillment. Unfortunately the beast doesn't understand spiritual things so by his dark sentences wisdom he derived a calendar with dates which are multiples and addition of dates and ages to arrive at dates which are deceiving. While the date prediction as per the calendar was wrong you still sent it across to me saying Glory to Alahim. How can you be so deceived to believe it? If May 21 2011 and Oct 21 2011 did not happen then all those formulas to arrive at these dates itself is wrong and the information outside the bible straight from the pit of hell.

Da 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said,Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

Alahim uses the 1290 and 1335 days of Daniel 8 from a literal fulfillment (in Grecian rule) to show us it’s spirituality. He further established this by a literal fulfillment of death of Messiah on day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), and pouring of Holy Ghost on day of Pentecost (Shavu'ot) and Hanukah/Festival of lights to end it by restoring the candle light in New Jerusalem and he is the light of the New Jerusalem.

Re 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of Alahim did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The Abomination of desolation is nothing but a diluted gospel which doesn't save because the gospel looks spiritual but it is from Satan because he is in the midst of it. I already shared with you the Zec 5:6-11 passages which show this.

Zechariah 5:6-11 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. [7] And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. [8] And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. [9] Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. [10] Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? [11] And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base. 


Ephah was a sin offering and the woman in the midst of it was Mystery Babylon which dilutes the gospel. It’s like the image set up by Antiochus in the Jewish temple (during the Grecian empire) which was Abominable.

Re 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetessto teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Messiah’s servants were seduced and fornicated with the whore and they repent of their fornication of those abominable doctrines of Mystery Babylon.

Quote: {Three]  " I will come" is Spiritual which Alahim shows us; so is the same as His Judgment upon the world upto the 'last day'.



[Four] The removal of the candlestick speaks of the church age, and perfectly aligns and parallels with Alahim's judgments He brought upon the nation of Israel at the cross, as the same He has done on the churches, because of the heart of man. As the parable in Matt 21:33- 41 shows.
Hence, Matt 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men (Israelites), and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen (Church age), which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
When Messiah was crucified Alahim rent the temple vale into and accomplished two exposed purposes, the way to the YAHUAH was opened directly to His elect (finished with the nation of Israel and given to the gentiles/church age) and (Messiah) He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease as prophecied in Daniel 9:24-27.
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I hope your understanding of this passage isn't what the churches have been teaching that the one who causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease is the devil and not Messiah. If you understand it is Messiah then we can move forward.  If you want to see an excellent study that shows it has to be Messiah and is in perfect harmony with the whole Bible then check this out.  It is well worth the comparing scriptures with scriptures.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/70wks.html


The vineyard in the parable above represents Alahim's place where Alahim was working His salvation (fruits) and Alahim has shown this same vineyard that was given to '
otherhusbandmen' is prophesied in Isaiah 5.  And for sure we have a perfect timeline as to when Messiah was crucified on April 1, 33AD  of if you prefer was on the Passover (a Friday) 11045 years from creation.



There are thousands of scriptures, that Alahim uses to bring His Word into perfect understanding as regarding these last days.
Shodan, my hope is Alahim will give you the desire to check out all this and much more and not lean on the studies you have already 'accepted' as sound doctrine.  If you do and if you find any discrepancies. I will gladly look at them

But in the end all understanding from Alahim (His Spirit) will be His doing and will be found 'only' from the Bible.
Glory to Alahim in the highest,

Roger
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You are misinterpreting Daniel 9:27. The One week/7 days of Daniel is spiritual
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The covenant made was with his sacrifice (Passover). Messiah is the Passover lamb. The Israelites were told to eat unleavened bread with it and the eating of the unleavened bread was for 7 days which was a reminder of their SOJOURN (for details on blessedness of Sojourning read my study 430 or 400 years in Egypt which is on my blog)

De 16:1 ¶ Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim: for in the month of Abib the YAHUAH thy Alahim brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the YAHUAH thy Alahim, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the YAHUAH shall choose to place his name there.3 Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life.4 And there shall be no leavened bread seen with thee in all thy coast seven days; neither shall there anything of the flesh, which thou sacrificedst the first day at even, remain all night until the morning.

But because his people who are called by his name fornicate with the whore (leaven of sin) and forget their sojourn and start living lawless lives fornicating with Mystery Babylon by following her false doctrines he causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease by allowing all of them to go into captivity. This picture can be seen by the woman in the midst of the ephah in the Zechariah passages.

Ho 13:6 According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.7 Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.9 ¶ O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.

The Yahuah says he will be like a lion, as a leopard and as a bear (beastly kingdoms of Satan) bereaved of her whelps to his people and tear them up. These all include foolish and wise virgins. All slumbered and slept and forgot their SOJOURN.
Mt 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

The midnight cry came from the false prophet of the 8th beast himself who is of the 7th (Rev 17:11) and not from a so called secret coming of Messiah to take away the candle stick but through the calendar and eschatology you are following now which came from the mouth of the beast. Hearing this cry both foolish and wise virgins came out to meet the bridegroom which shows they both were deceived but wise understood and saw this deception but foolish continue with the beast and his wonder.

Mt 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

By his tail (false prophet) Satan cast the third part of the stars of heaven (elect) and cast them to the earth.

Re 12:4 And his (dragon’s) tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Isa 9:14 Therefore the YAHUAH will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

He causes fire to come down from heaven (as though it was a wonder from Alahim himself) and your calendar and eschatology is this wonder.
Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Da 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the Alahim of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

That is how the Yahuah met his people as the lion, leopard and as a bear bereaved of her whelps.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Da 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

When the false prophet of the 8th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7th seal which shows the time is very short.

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The half an hour of Rev 8:1 and midst of week of Daniel 9:27 is synonymous to the MIDNIGHT CRY to come out to meet the bridegroom. By this cry the wise virgins came out to only see that they were deceived and Messiah gives his elect understanding by showing them who MYSTERY BABYLON is and that they must repent of their wickedness of fornicating with her. Their deception by the beast worked to their awakening to truth because they heard and understood who Mystery Babylon is now from the voice that came from heaven.

Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

The focus of GT is Messiah and his elect and not corporate churches. We have sinned not they only. Your eschatology is ‘I’m safe outside the church’ and woe to the churches but the beast himself called you outside the church and what are you doing? 

My prayer is that the Yahuah open the eyes of your understanding that you come out of this deception and see who Mystery Babylon is.

Quote: If you get the last one answered just from the Bible.  Then please answer this one. 


When the false prophet of the 8
th beast cried there was silence in heaven for space of half an hour because it was the time of his rule allotted to him. This information came to Alahim’s people at the final 7th seal which shows the time is very short.

Show how you arrived at the "8th beast cried and there was silence in heaven for a space of half an hour". End Quote


The beast is given unto him a mouth. His power is in his MOUTH because by it he gives the cry to go out to meet the bridegroom and all go to out to meet the false christ and believe a false gospel.These are spiritual things and only can be understood by comparing spiritual with spiritual

Re 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
 19 For their power is in their mouthand in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Re 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of Alahim Almighty.

Now for the verses to show this.John talks of ten horns/kings which have received no kingdom as yet-these shall receive power as kings one hour with the beast. We must see in the context that John is saying these things

Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Now for the context:


Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

There are eight beastly rules of Satan throughout time on earth and the eighth is of the seven. John is told here is the mind which hath wisdom and this wisdom is that Mystery Babylon is ruling on all these 7 beastly rules. 
Read verse 10 there are seven kings and five are fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon,Medes Persia and Greece are the 5 beasts fallen) and one is (Rome was ruling when John wrote Revelation and went on to be the longest rule as this was the 4th dreaded beast of Daniel 7) and one is yet to come (the 7th beast which was the little horn from Rome-all those who came out of Rome). Are you with me till here?

Now verse 11 the beast that was and is not and yet is, is the eighth and is from the seven and goes into perdition. The ten horns/kings which have no kingdom yet(because the 8th beast was not yet come) will receive power one hour with the beast and they will give their power and strength to this beast.

Now for the space of half an hour

The opening of seals is the revealing of events which were sealed or hidden. Daniel was told that the vision was shut up till the time of the end

Da 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Yahuah, what shall be the end of these things?
 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end

Now we read that when Messiah opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for half an hour. This was the darkest part of the hour because this 8th beast was given the mouth and power was in his mouth. He gave the midnight cry and took all (both foolish and wise virgins) to meet the false Messiah

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The wise virgins fornicated with the WHORE and hence there was silence of the true gospel in the kingdom of heaven for half and hour while they fornicated while the 10 horns/kings which had no kingdom yet continued to rule with the beast for the complete one hour. The silence is broken with the voice from Alahim out of heaven to come out of MYSTERY BABYLON. The wise realized that the call was to come out of Mystery Babylon and not a local church and Mystery Babylon is the lawlessness within and not outside.

The man of sin seated in the temple is not Satan sitting in the church but us. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit and the works of wood, hay and stubble will be burnt by the fire of GT and elect will suffer loss but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire.

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of Alahim, and that the Spirit of Alahim dwelleth in you?
 17 If any man defile the temple of Alahim, him shall Alahim destroy; for the temple of Alahim is holy, which temple ye are.

Paul spoke saying that day will not come until the falling away comes first and the falling away is the elect of Alahim fornicating with the WHORE

2Th 2:3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The call to come out of Mystery Babylon brought the unsealing of the prophecies of  Daniel which were shut up till the time of the end. The elect now understand that the false prophet's cry to meet the bridegroom was to take them captive to a false Messiah and a false gospel and they come out of Mystery Babylon and stand afar off for the fear of her torment and weep and lament and mourn.

One more thing in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins the foolish virgins lamps were already gone out

Mt 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

In the candle stick the continuous supply of oil is given so that the fire keeps burning but their fire was already out and they met the false Messiah who satisfied their desire and gave them the strange fire.

Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 

While the wise virgins works were burned by fire (because they fornicated with the whore: slumbered and slept) they themselves were saved yet as so by the fire which was still there in their lamps because that was the true fire from heaven.


1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


Sunday, November 10, 2013

One hour with Messiah and one hour with the beast

  In the studies 'Great tribulation of  the Israel of Alahim' and 'Was Israel 400 years or 430 years in Egypt?' we saw the third part being in Great Tribulation with the cross being the measuring line as stated time, times and dividing of time. This means that Messiah himself went through Great Tribulation and we follow him bearing his reproach. In order to understand this please refer to both these studies on my blog. Let's now see what scriptures teach on ONE HOUR WITH CHRIST and ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST.
A little back ground to this short study is to understand that all timelines mentioned in Alahim's word are spiritual to us and Alahim used Israel in Egypt as an example of the captivity of his children by Satan in all ages.

Ho 11:1 ¶ When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

Mt 2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Yahuah by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
 Re 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Yahuah was crucified.
The Israel of Alahim represents Messiah and his elect whom Alahim called out of Egypt. Hence the 430 years of Israel in Egypt was a sign of the third part entering Great Tribulation and these are the ones who see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION 430*3=1290. We also saw the sign given to Ezekiel who was told to lie down on his right side for 390 days for the iniquity of Israel and on his left side for 40 days for the sins of Judah each day for a year Ezekiel 4:3-6 390+40=430 

Keeping this in mind that Messiah was in Great Tribulation and he is the Israel of Alahim and we in him are part of the Israel of Alahim let's understand the spiritual timeline of ONE HOUR WITH CHRIST and those outside the Israel of Alahim share this one hour with the BEAST.

 Mt 26:40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?

We see that Messiah in his darkest hour is asking his disciples whether they couldn't watch with him ONE HOUR. We know that all symbolism's and spiritual imageries in Alahim's word show us a picture so let's look at what was revealed to Daniel and then compare with what John saw and wrote in the book of Revelation. Let's look at Daniel 4 where Daniel interprets king Nebuchadnezzar's dream for him and Alahim's word says that Daniel was astonished for ONE HOUR. I will quote some key scriptures and I suggest that the reader read the whole of Daniel Chapter 4 to understand the dream and the interpretation of that dream. Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon and a type of Satan and his kingdom the beastly kingdom of MYSTERY BABYLON. 

The dream was fulfilled in a literal sense but also carries a spiritual meaning which we will look at by comparing scripture with scripture. Now for the passages. 

Da 4:19 ¶ Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonied for one hour, and his thoughts troubled him. The king spake, and said, Belteshazzar, let not the dream, or the interpretation thereof, trouble thee. Belteshazzar answered and said, My lord, the dream be to them that hate thee, and the interpretation thereof to thine enemies.

Da 4:13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;
 14 He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
 15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:
 16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him

Da 4:23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;

Nebuchadnezzar was told that he would have a portion with the beasts of the field and the kingdom will be taken away from him but the stump of the roots of his kingdom will be left in the earth with a band of iron and brass and will be wet with the dew of heaven until seven times pass over him. The king was made to be like a beast as per the interpretation given him by Daniel and then was restored back to power after the fulfillment of the number of days but this is not the end of it, through this vision Alahim paints a spiritual picture and we can see what the beastly kingdom of Babylon represents. 

Alahim's word says that Daniel was astonished for an hour (Daniel 4:19) when he gave the king the interpretation of the dream and he was TROUBLED. We see a similar encounter John has when he sees Mystery Babylon.


Re 17:6 And I saw the woman(MYSTERY BABYLON) drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahusha: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

 7 ¶ And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Now to understand the spiritual imagery of the kingdom of Babylon we must see when the kingdom of MYSTERY BABYLON actually popped up it's head and why Alahim suppressed the head of the kingdom to be revealed in it's significance.

Ge 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the YAHUAH: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the YAHUAH.
 10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Ge 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
 5 ¶ And the YAHUAH came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
 6 And the YAHUAH said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
 8 So the YAHUAH scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

When man's wickedness increased once again after Alahim destroyed the whole earth in the days of Noah, the depraved man under the influence of Satan planned to build the MYSTERY BABYLON and city that would reach heaven and Alahim confused the language of men and scattered them because the transgressors were not come to the full and the rule of one hour with the beast was not physical but spiritual.

Da 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 

The transgressors were not come to the full yet because Alahim would determine when this would be and it's only known to him but he has not left us in a vacuum but has given us signs of the times to realize when this happens.
Now coming back to the vision of Nebuchadnezzar  in Daniel 4-let's look at this part of the verse closely:

Da 4:23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;

When we understand that physically MYSTERY BABYLON popped up it's head after the flood destruction but was suppressed for the time of the transgressors was not come to the full yet and with this in mind we look at the part of the verse which says 'let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him' and compare to see Satan's beastly kingdom's in time can we understand the verse better. There are 8 beastly kingdoms of Satan throughout time and the eighth is of the seven.

Re 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

These beastly kingdoms are:

1) Egypt 2) Assyria 3) Babylon 4) Medes Persia 5) Greece 6) Rome 7) little horn from Rome 8) kings of the earth (foolish and wise virgins) who came out from the little horn fornicating with MYSTERY BABYLON.

Now looking at what we learnt that physically MYSTERY BABYLON popped up it's head after the flood destruction to build a city but was suppressed for the time of the transgressors was not come to the full yet  and keeping Rev 17:11 in mind where Alahim shows us that the eighth is of the seven and the understanding we had from previous studies that Rev 17:8 says the beast that was is not and yet is let's rearrange these literal beastly rules of Satan in the light of what Daniel 4 says

1) Egypt with Mystery Babylon working in it 2) Assyria with Mystery Babylon working in it 3) Babylon with Mystery Babylon working in it 4) Medes Persia with Mystery Babylon working in it 5) Greece with Mystery Babylon working in it 6) Rome with Mystery Babylon working in it  7) little horn from Rome with Mystery Babylon working in it 8) kings of the earth (foolish and wise virgins who heard the midnight cry) who came out from the little horn now fornicating with MYSTERY BABYLON.

 Re 17:2 With whom (Mystery Babylon) the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

It's the wise virgins who Alahim calls out of MYSTERY BABYLON while the foolish continue to buy and sell her merchandise.

Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Mt 25:10 And while they(foolish virgins) went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Re 18:9 ¶ And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

The wise virgins hear the midnight cry and come out, a trap laid by Mystery Babylon but Alahim works it for their good in separating the wheat and the tares and they realize that they are still fornicating with Mystery Babylon during this one hour when her judgment is come.

Now when we look at the part of the verse of Daniel 4:23 '.....and let his portion be with the beasts of the field' can we understand that Mystery Babylon was suppressed/restrained physically but it's portion was with all Satan's beastly kingdoms on earth spiritually in all 7 beastly kingdoms and the eighth is of the seven. 

Alahim removed the physical rule of MYSTERY BABYLON and allowed MYSTERY BABYLON to rule spiritually through all beastly kingdoms of Satan right till the end symbolized as one hour with the beast. This is what Nebuchadnezzar's dream meant when it says 'leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass' because Alahim though cut off MYSTERY BABYLON physically (the obvious) Alahim allowed it to continue spiritually (not the obvious which only the eyes of the elect would see).

Da 4:15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth: 

'IRON AND BRASS'  is symbolic of STRENGTH. Here are a few examples from Alahim's word:

De 33:24 And of Asher he said, Let Asher be blessed with children; let him be acceptable to his brethren, and let him dip his foot in oil. 25 Thy shoes shall be iron and brass; and as thy days, so shall thy strength be.

De 8:9 A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness, thou shalt not lack any thing in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills thou mayest dig brass.

Job 40:18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

 Ps 107:16 For he hath broken the gates of brass, and cut the bars of iron in sunder.

 Jer 6:28 They are all grievous revolters, walking with slanders: they are brass and iron; they are all corrupters.

MYSTERY BABYLON was allowed as a stump in the earth with a band of iron and brass which shows that the strength of Satan's beastly rules comes from it.

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Paul says that the mystery of iniquity/lawlessness was already at work which confirms of what Alahim's word says. Only the understanding was not opened till the time of the end as Alahim told Daniel to shut up the vision till the time of the end. If we are understanding these things then it is evident that we are very close to the end because these are the signs of times, we being in the closing of the one hour of the rule of the kings with the beast because it's in this midnight hour Messiah called the kings of the earth i.e. his wise virgins to come out of MYSTERY BABYLON. 

Re 8:1 ¶ And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The silence for the space of half an hour shows that the half hour was part of the whole symbolic ONE HOUR with half and hour being the CROSS which is the measuring line because Messiah goes first into Great Tribulation and then his elect in all ages follow him. Please remember this that the before the cross physically there were Satan's beastly rules and Mystery Babylon was already giving these beastly rules strength and power but positionally Messiah is the head of the body, he is the firstborn over all creation and the first fruits of the resurrection of the dead because by his resurrection we have been given a hope of being set free from the Great Tribulation and the pains of death (our days shortened). He is the one who led captivity captive and was killed by the sword of Alahim's judgment and we follow him irrespective of whatever age the elect lived in. The Cross is the center point.

Re 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Doesn't scripture tell us that Messiah led captivity captive?

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Re 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivityhe that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Messiah is the PERFECT MEDIATOR because he who led captivity captive went into captivity himself, he that strikes the worlds with the sword that proceeds from his mouth was killed by that same sword himself when he fulfilled the purpose of DIVIDE ASUNDER/externalized (came out from Alahim John 16:27) to be part of his creation in EVERY WAY to die for sins of mankind.

Heb 2:11 For both he (Messiah) that sanctifieth and they (Messiah's elect) who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Here is the patience and the faith of the saints (Rev 13:10) because when they find themselves in great affliction they remind themselves of the great affliction that Messiah himself went through for us.

Ro 8:17 ¶ And if children, then heirs; heirs of Alahim, and joint-heirs with Messiah; if so be that we suffer with him (Messiah), that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Proof that Cross was the center point:

 1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible Alahim, the firstborn of every creature:

 1Co 15:20 ¶ But now is Messiah risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

 Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

The last days began at the cross and the cross is the measuring line. Messiah and we in Messiah who are his body of his flesh and of his bones.

Ac 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith Alahim, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.

Now coming back to the discussion on the topic of the ONE HOUR

John terms the beastly rules of Satan as 7 kings out of which 5 were fallen during his time (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medes Persia,Greece) and the 6th one was ruling in his time(Rome) '...and one is' and the other (7th) was not yet come but we in our time see that the OTHER IS ALREADY COME (7th beast) so we are very close just as the doors of the coming of Messiah.

Re 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

John says when the 7th beast comes he must continue a short space. The good news for the elect is it's not a lengthy beastly kingdom but to those who are not yet saved something to dread about.

Let's read one verse before Rev 17:10 and understand the context in which John speaks of the beastly rules.

Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

And this WOMAN called MYSTERY BABYLON sat on the seven mountains/seven kings/seven beastly rules of Satan's kingdom and Alahim's word says 'AND HERE IS THE MIND WHICH HATH WISDOM'.

Now let's look at the 'ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST'

Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
 14 ¶ These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Yahuah of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Remember when we view Great Tribulation we must view Messiah and his body as going through it together and only in this light will be able to understand the spiritual imagery and pictures Alahim paints in his word. At the start of this study we saw that the 'one hour' is the period where Messiah calls his elect to WATCH AND PRAY in the very same hour where he went through Great Tribulation but the wise virgins slumbered and slept with the foolish virgins (seen and understood from the picture of Peter James and John sleeping and Messiah asking them that they could not watch and pray with him for even ONE HOUR) thus fornicating with the whore MYSTERY BABYLON but Messiah in his mercy caused her to awake and come out of MYSTERY BABYLON.

This fornication with the whore can also be understood from Peter's denial of Messiah three times (third part in Great Tribulation). Just before his denial Messiah told Peter 

Lu 22:31 And the Yahuah said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
 33 And he said unto him, Yahuah, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death.
 34 And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.

Once Peter would be converted and realized what he had done he is asked by the Yahuah to strengthen his brethren.
This conversion can be seen that three times the Yahuah asks Peter whether he loves him

Joh 21:15 ¶ So when they had dined, Yahusha saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Yahuah; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Yahuah; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Yahuah, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Messiah has set us as watchmen to feed his sheep, letting them know what's happening. It started with our conversion after our denial of Messiah when we fornicated with the whore and from where Messiah called us out to see.

The 4 living creatures/4 beasts(ELECT) who have eyes in the front, behind and within call out to others ' COME AND SEE'

 Re 6:1 ¶ And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
 Re 6:3 ¶ And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
 Re 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
 Re 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

The 'COME AND SEE' message is to see the 4 horses and it's riders which are the 4 beasts of Daniel 7 (number 4 being universal ) who cause the people on the earth to be killed by false gospels in captivating them in falsehood and lies. This is the MYSTERY BABYLON , the mother of all harlots who sits on all the 7 beastly kingdoms of Satan whose stump remains with a band of iron and brass until seven times pass.

Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Finally Messiah tells the faithful church (his body of true elect) that he will keep us from this ONE HOUR which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth. In his faithfulness he called us out of MYSTERY BABYLON.

Re 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Sunday, November 3, 2013

Alahim's covenant with Living Creatures

Genesis 9:12-16 And Alahim said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: [13] I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. [14] And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: [15] And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. [16] And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between Alahim and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

From the first glance it seems that Alahim is telling Noah that he will never again destroy all flesh but if you microscope your examination of the verses and see that Alahim is telling Noah that the token of covenant would be between Him and Noah and every LIVING CREATURE with him(verse 12) and in verse 15 between Alahim and Noah and every living creature of all flesh. Alahim gave a sign of the covenant and the sign was the rainbow in the cloud.

Mr 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush Alahim spake unto him, saying, I am the Alahim of Abraham, and the Alahim of Isaac, and the Alahim of Jacob?

 27 He is not the Alahim of the dead, but the Alahim of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

Who are the living creatures? The elect of course. We can see spiritual imagery concerning the description of the living creatures in the book of Ezekiel and Revelation. Before we see the imagery let's also examine the RAINBOW passages which show Alahim's faithfulness to his covenant.

We see John describing Messiah in a spiritual imagery. The rainbow on his head shows that Messiah has got the covenant in his mind which he has with his elect always. A continuous/perpetual reminder of that covenant.

Re 10:1 ¶ And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

We see a similar imagery when John describes Alahim's throne, he mentions that there was a RAINBOW roung about the throne.

Revelation 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

Because of Alahim's covenant with LIVING CREATURES these will never be consumed by the wrath of Alahim.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Yahuah , I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Alahim is mindful of his covenant which he made.

Now for the vision of the 4 LIVING CREATURES and the SPIRITUAL IMAGERY

Ezekiel 1:5-6, 10 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. [6] And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. [10] As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

This is an imagery of his elect which have the likeness of Messiah in them and the 4 faces are symbolic of the 4 gospels(the true gospel of Messiah) in all ages which goes out to the ends of the earth saving Alahim's remnant.

Ezekiel 1:13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

These living creatures were like burning coals of fire which is their cleansing in the refiners fire of Great tribulation.


 Ge 15:17 ¶ And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.

If you have read the post on Am I weaned or under suck we saw the 5 sacrifices which Alahim commanded Abraham to lay which point out to the sacrifice of Messiah and the burning lamp of fire between the divided pieces of the sacrifice shows the fire of Great Tribulation that Messiah himself went through and so do his people.

 Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Yahuah is my Alahim.

Now coming back to the throne where John saw was surrounded by the RAINBOW and in the midst and round the throne were the four beasts full of eyes before, behind and within and cry out day and night acknowledging the YAHUAHSHIP of CHRIST.

Revelation 4:6-8 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. [7] And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. [8] And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him ; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Yahuah Alahim Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

John saw the same four living creatures of Ezekiel and describes them as four beasts around the throne within that covenant of RAINBOW

Re 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of Alahim and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

Revelation 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.


Notice the words COME AND SEE preached by one of the four beasts which show elect have the understanding and invite others to come and see/understand the Revelation of Messiah.Also notice that John says these 4 beasts have eyes before and behind and within which is symbolic of complete revelation of who Messiah is. 


The symbolism of  the beasts full of eyes

Before: foresight, seeing and understanding prophecy
 Behind: understand prophecy which was fulfilled 
Within: DEEP THINGS OF GOD/hidden mysteries

They cry day and night and acknowledge Alahim who was who is and who is to come.


Who was who is and who is to come is in response to their understanding of who Alahim was (eyes behind) who is (eyes within) who is to come( eyes in the front). They have a complete picture and revelation of the mystery of Messiah. Who he was, how he came out of Alahim and went back to Alahim.


Ezekiel saw these living creatures bearing the glory of Alahim.


2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of Alahim, and not of us.


There is so much spiritual imagery in Alahim's word. Finally the rainbow around the throne with the 4 living creatures or beasts within that rainbow is a beautiful picture of Alahim's covenant with his elect


Revelation 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.


Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.



Eze 1:26 ¶ And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the YAHUAH. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.