WHY A SON?

 Originally Posted by Messenger 

 Originally Posted by civic 

Messenger how did the Father send the Son if no Son existed?

hope thus helps,

Civic,

How is a Son born into this World? In the same way. The Son did not pop down from heaven LOL. He was born through the virgin birth.

Alahim's breath inseminated the Logos into the seed of the woman and the holy one born through her was called the Son of Alahim

Lu 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of Alahim.

Do you know the need of a SON?

If you understand these terms in scripture and their relation to usward will you understand the need of a Son

'firstborn over all creation'
'firstborn from the dead'
'firstborn among many brethren'
'firstfruits of them who slept'

Messiah is all this as a SON so that we be ADOPTED as sons of Alahim

Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father

Ga 4:6 And because ye are sons, Alahim hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Yahusha was not an adopted Son. He naturally called his Father as 'Abba Father'

Mr 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

I/We can relate to Alahim only through His Son. That's why Alahim planned within himself that he would externalize himself to be immanent to his creation through a visible image and Messiah is our immanent Alahim.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O Alahim, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Now think for a moment, your doctrine of Trinity states that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all Alahim then why had Alahim to declare only to the Son " Thy throne O Alahim is forever and ever..."

Why not to the Holy Spirit " Thy throne O Alahim is forever and ever.."?

That's because Alahim planned within himself that his Divinity be manifested bodily as stated in Col 2:9 'theotes bodily' so that he could reconcile/enjoin his creation to himself through His Son.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that Alahim was in Messiah, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation

Scriptures show 'immediate creation' 'mediate creation' and 'pro-creation'

Immediate creation and mediate creation is a CREATION. Something made out of nothing.

Adam was immediate creation. Alahim's breath into him made him a living soul Gen 2:7. Let Us in Gen 1:26 is not Alahim conversing with his Son but Alahim planning within himself his Divinity bodily (Eph 1:11). In simple words Alahim is making means of man to be related to him through an image.

Ro 8:29 ¶ For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Alahim's WISDOm/LOGOS is personified because the Logos was externalized finally to be the Son through whom Alahim would relate to mankind. 'Let Us' is Alahim's Logos who was externalized figuratively/prophetically speaking of the SON through whom the creation would relate to himself. Since the Logos and the SON are coterminous and the eternalness of the Logos is the eternalness of the Son it was as though the SON was present at creation because all creation was for HIM. BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.

You cant have the cart before the horse and that's what Trinity does by making the Son an eternal SON.

'Mediate creation'

Alahim's breath was sufficient to create life through a SEED when he said "Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth"

Ge 1:28 And Alahim blessed them, and Alahim said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So when a husband and wife come together the life that Alahim breathed into the seed brings forth life in combination of the biological properties of the parents and thus a child is born.

One is born again by the incorruptible seed of Alahim

1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word (Logos) of Alahim, which liveth and abideth for ever.

If Messiah is the firstborn-the REAL SON---I FOLLOW HIM because scripture says that he is the firstborn among many brethren.
I am born again through the LOGOS made flesh in me. Messiah in ME the hope of Glory.

Col 1:27 To whom Alahim would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Messiah in you, the hope of glory:

This proves that Alahim's substance was manifested for distribution and not multiplication.

Logos was made flesh and dwelt amongst us John 1:14
I am born again by the same Logos of Alahim (Messiah in me the hope of glory)

1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of Alahim doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of Alahim.

Messiah is the SEED. The LOGOS made flesh.

He took not on him the nature of angels but the SEED of ABRAHAM. He is the FIRSTBORN not the ETERNAL BORN as you Trins teach.

Finally 'PRO-CREATION' : The SON was not created but was existent as the LOGOS. John 1:14 And the Logos was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.

He was very much present in the 'immediate creation as I showed you ' Let us' (As a CREATOR)
He was very much present in the 'mediate creation' as I showed you 'SEED' and the 'FIRSTBORN' ( AS A CREATOR)
He is very much present in his 'pro-creation' (AS A CREATOR humbling himself and becoming part of HIS CREATION)

Heb 2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. Quote from the prophetic Psalm 22:22
Heb 2:13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which Alahim hath given me. Isaiah 8:18

ITS ALL ABOUT HIM. THIS IS HOW AND WHY THE SON WAS SENT

Hope this helps?

Messenger

The Brazen Serpent

Looking at Brass serpent in wilderness those who saw it were healed of the poison of the serpents, while we see this account as salvation account it fits more in elect fornicating as Israel did by asking meat in the wilderness (eating and drinking), they despised the true bread that came down from heaven (manna symbolic of Messiah the true bread that came down from heaven)

Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Nu 21:5 And the people spake against Alahim, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

6 And the YAHUAH sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

Nu 21:8 And the YAHUAH said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

 Nu 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

What does this brazen serpent stand for?

The brazen serpent is Messiah in human nature different from us as he is sinless but he is identified with us serpents. He was numbered with the transgressors.

Mr 15:28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.

We are like serpents bringing out deadly poison

Ps 58:4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;

Ps 140:3 They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.

John the Baptist called those who came to be baptized of him as generation of vipers (those not chosen by Alahim)

Lu 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Adopting his (Messiah’s) nature we are saved from the wrath of Alahim, from the poison of our own natures which secrete the poison to destroy us. Also the poisonous gospels which cause us to rebel against Alahim and sin against Him brings Alahims wrath but Messiah as our mediator saves those who look unto him for help.

What happened to Israel was an example for us

1Co 10:5 But with many of them Alahim was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 ¶ Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

9 Neither let us tempt Messiah, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Have we fornicated and lusted after flesh despising the manna from heaven? This is a question which we need to ask ourselves.

Taking up serpents, drinking deadly was the true gospel trampling the false one but in our human nature we were/are exploring wickedness by which we were/are deceived by false gospels and false doctrines and we think we are doing Alahims service as stated in Mark 16:17 to 18 by venturing into the forbidden.

Mr 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

The new tongues represent the true gospel which was sent forth as a Great Commission from Messiah through his apostles. We went out venturing false deadly gospels not testing what we hold with Alahim’s word but inspite of this it didn't harm us becoz of our brazen serpent who was lifted up to draw his elect to him.

The locusts from bottomless pit (place of being alienated from Life of Alahim where angels who sinned were confined to chains of darkness) with scorpion stings have always tried to harm the green (elect) but Messiah our brazen serpent has gulped all our abominable sins on the cross by taking the punishment of our nature on himself.

2Pe 2:4 For if Alahim spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Hebrews 2 says the it behoved him to be like his brethren in every way, he didn't take on him the nature of angels(elect messengers) but the seed of Abraham(fallen messengers)
,In every way he identified with us but sinless.

Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to Alahim, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Messiah is the one to lead us as he led Israel through the great and terrible wilderness protecting us from the scorpions, serpents who come to bite us, it’s time we examine every doctrine we hold testing it with a fiery test to see if it’s true lest we be bitten by the serpent in the wilderness.

De 8:15 Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where there was no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint;

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Messiah

Man is so carnal that he doesn’t understand the symbolisms of Alahim’s word and twists it to suit his own theology; one such example is that this same brazen serpent which Moses had made was worshipped by Israel for many generations until Hezekiah broke it in pieces. They did not know or see what this brazen serpent represented.

2Ki 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Did AlaYah and Chanuk ascend into heaven?

Tradition at face value reading of scriptures has always deceived people into thinking of the two witnesses in Revelation 11 are Chanuk/Enoch and AlaYah/Elijah because according to them they bodily ascended into the heaven and it is prophesied about AlaYah that before the coming day of Yahuah he will send AlaYah/Elijah the prophet.

Mal 4:5 “See, I am sending you Ěliyah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה. Mal 4:6 “And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with utter destruction

This was a prophecy which was fulfilled when Yahuchanan/John the Baptist came in the same Ruach of AlaYah/Elijah

Luk 1:16 “And he (Yahuchanan the Baptist) shall turn many of the children of Yisra’ĕl to יהוה their Elohim. Luk 1:17 “And he shall go before Him in the spirit and power of Ěliyahu, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’ and the disobedient to the insight of the righteous, to make ready a people prepared for יהוה.”

Yahusha ha Mashiyach confirmed that he Yahuchanan the Immerser/Baptist was AlaYah the one who was prophesied to come

Mat 11:13 “For all the prophets and the Torah prophesied till Yoḥanan.

Mat 11:14 “And if you wish to accept it, he is Ěliyahu who was about to come.

Mat 11:15 “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

Then what about AlaYah ? Did he ascend into heaven bodily? Does scripture teach that he was taken up in a whirlwind to heaven?

2Ki 2:1 And it came to be, when יהוה was to take up Ěliyahu to the heavens by a whirlwind, that Ěliyahu went with Elisha from Gilgal.

The Abary word for 'heaven' is shamayam. This same word is used in Genesis 7:3, "birds also of the heavens," with Genesis 7:23, "birds of the heavens’’

Since AlaYah could not have gone to the heaven of Alahym's throne, then to which heaven did he go? He was not taken to Alahym's heavenly throne (as some imagine). He was actually taken into this earth's atmosphere which is also called the heavens. There could be no whirlwind in any other place but in the atmosphere surrounding this earth.

What was the reason for this unusual act of Alahym? Why did he take Alayah up into the atmosphere? Was it to make him immortal? No! The Scripture says no word about that! In Hebrews 11:13,39, we read about the prophets who lived by faith and died without receiving the promises.

Heb 11:13 In belief all these died, not having received the promises, but seeing them from a distance, welcomed and embraced them, and confessed that they were aliens and strangers on the earth.

Heb 11:39 And having obtained witness through the belief, all these did not receive the promise

Notice what the prophets tell Alaysha about AlaYahu

2Ki 2:3 And the sons of the prophets who were at Bĕyth Ěl came out to Elisha, and said to him, “Do you know that יהוה is taking away your master from your head/rosh?” And he said, “I also know, be silent!”

The Abary word Rosh means head/captain/first in rank and hence it means that he was replacing the office of AlaYah in fulfilling his work for which he was sent for and giving that office now to Alaysha. So AlaYah was not to be made Immortal, for that would give him pre-eminence above Yahusha because the scriptures testify that only Mashiyach representing man is immortal and first born over all creation (Col 1:15) and first born from the dead (Col 1:18).

So where did AlaYah go?

This has been the perplexing problem to so many. He did not ascend to the throne of Alahym Also, notice in 2 Kings 2: 3 and 5 that the sons of the prophets knew AlaYah would be taken away by Alahym in advance. They believed that AlaYah was going to be taken to another location, which is why they were fearful that the Spirit of Alahym might have dropped him "upon some mountain, or into some valley" (2 Kings 2:15-17).

2Ki 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets who were from Yeriḥo saw him, they said, “The spirit of Ěliyahu rests on Elisha.” And they came to meet him, and bowed to the ground before him.

2Ki 2:16 And they said to him, “Look, there are fifty strong men with your servants. Please let them go and search for your master, lest the Spirit of יהוה has taken him up and cast him upon some mountain or into some valley.” And he said, “Send no one.”

2Ki 2:17 But they pressed upon him till he was ashamed, and he said, “Send.” So they sent fifty men, and they searched for three days but did not find him.

The new king of Israel was another son of Ahab, Yahuram/Jehoram. The beginning of his reign marked the year of his replacing AlaYah with Alaysha when AhazYahu died (2 Kings 1:18 and 3:1)

2Ki 1:18 And the rest of the acts of Aḥazyahu which he did, are they not written in the book of the annals of the sovereigns of Yisra’ĕl?

2Ki 3:1 And Yahuram son of Aḥaḇ began to reign over Yisra’ĕl at Shomeron in the eighteenth year of Yehoshaphat sovereign of Yehuḏah, and reigned twelve years.

We see the replacing of the head/rosh in that the people now recognized Alaysha as in the office of the prophet carrying on the legacy of AlaYah whom he served.

2Ki 3:11 And Yehoshaphat said, “Is there no prophet of יהוה here? Then let us inquire of יהוה through him.” One of the servants of the sovereign of Yisra’ĕl then answered and said, “Elisha son of Shaphat is here, who poured water out on the hands of Ěliyahu.”

In the fifth year of Yahuram king of Israel, the son of the king of Judah began to reign along with his father in Judah (2 Kings 8:16). His name also was Yahuram. The first thing he did to establish his kingdom rule was to put his relatives to the sword lest they should claim the throne from him (2 Chronicles 21:4). For nearly six years he followed the ways of the nations about him and did evil in the sight of Alahym.

2Ki 8:16 And in the fifth year of Yahuram son of Aḥaḇ sovereign of Yisra’ĕl – Yehoshaphat was sovereign of Yehuḏah – Yahuram son of Yehoshaphat began to reign as sovereign of Yehuḏah.

2Ch 21:4 And when Yahuram had risen up over the reign of his father and made himself strong, he slew all his brothers with the sword, and also others of the heads of Yisra’ĕl.

Almost ten years had now expired since AlaYah was taken from the people. After this wicked rule by the king, Alahym chose AlaYah to write a letter and have it sent to the king! The contents of the letter are found in 2 Chronicles 21:12-15.

2Ch 21:12 And a letter came to him from Ěliyahu the prophet, saying, Thus said יהוה Elohim of your father Dawiḏ, “Because you have not walked in the ways of Yehoshaphat your father, or in the ways of Asa sovereign of Yehuḏah,

2Ch 21:13 but have walked in the way of the sovereigns of Yisra’ĕl, and have made Yehuḏah and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim to commit whoring like the whorings of the house of Aḥaḇ, and also have slain your brothers, those of your father’s household, who were better than yourself,

2Ch 21:14 see, יהוה is going to strike with a great blow among your people, your children, your wives, and all your possessions,

2Ch 21:15 and you, with many sicknesses, with disease of your intestines, until your intestines come out because of the sickness, day by day.”

From the wording of this letter, it is clear that AlaYah wrote it after these events had occurred, for he speaks of them as past events, and of the diseases as future, Two years after the king became diseased the king died, having reigned only eight short years (2 Chronicles 21:18-20).

2Ch 21:18 And after all this יהוה plagued him in his intestines with a disease for which there was no healing.

2Ch 21:19 And it came to be in the course of time, at the end of two years, that his intestines came out because of his sickness, and he died in great pain. And his people made no burning for him, like the burning for his fathers.

2Ch 21:20 He was thirty-two years old when he began to reign, and he reigned eight years in Yerushalayim, to no one’s regret, and passed away. And they buried him in the City of Dawiḏ, but not in the tombs of the sovereigns.

This proves that the letter was written about ten years after AlaYah had been taken to another location by the whirlwind. Alahym used AlaYah to convey the message because he was the prophet of Alahym in the days of the present king's father, and the son was not going in the ways of his obedient father, Yehosophat. This letter proves that he was alive someplace else. The Scriptures does not reveal how much longer AlaYah lived after writing the letter, but it does say that it is appointed for all men to die once (Romans 5:12,14, 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, Hebrews 9:27). AlaYah definitely didn’t write the letter from heaven , did he?

An incident similar to AlaYah took place in Acts 8:39,40. Philip was caught up into another location, as AlaYah was, and was transported to another location approximately 30 miles away.

Act 8:39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of יהוה caught Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, for he went his way, rejoicing.

Act 8:40 Philip, however, was found at Ashdoḏ. And passing through, he brought the Good News in all the cities until he came to Caesarea.

Another similar incident happened to Ezekiel, in which the spirit took him away (Ezekiel 3:12).

Eze 3:12 And the Spirit lifted me up, and behind me I heard the sound of a great rumbling voice, “Blessed be the esteem of יהוה from His place,”

The spirit lifted him up "between the earth and the heaven" and brought him "to Yarushalam to the door of the inner gate" (Ezekiel 8:3). Afterwards, the spirit took him up to Chaldea (Ezekiel 11:24).

AlaYah may not have been found because he was transported further away than the fifty men searched (2 Kings 2:17)

And, as far as being taken into heaven where Alahym's throne is, we can know that neither AlaYah nor Chanuk nor Masha were taken into Alahym's heavenly abode, because Yahusha said, while he was on this earth, that "no man has ascendeth to heaven" (John 3:13), and "No man has seen Alahym at any time" (John 1:18).

Now let’s come to Chanuk/Enoch:

Some people believe that Chanuk/Enoch did not die but was taken directly to heaven where Alahym is. But, Chanuk eventually died, as all humans die. How can we know? The emissary Paul mentioned the circumstances associated with Chanuk in Hebrews 11:5, along with other men of faith, and then stated: "These all died in faith, not having received the promises" (Hebrews 11:13). Yes, Khanuk died, and he did not receive the promise of heaven (verse 16) at the time the book of Hebrews was written.

Heb 11:16 But now they long for a better place, that is, a heavenly. Therefore Elohim is not ashamed to be called their Elohim, for He has prepared a city for them.

Gen 5:24 And Ḥanoḵ walked with Elohim. Then he was no more/Ayan, for Elohim took him.

H369 אַיִן Ayan : As if from a primitive root meaning to be nothing or not exist; a non-entity; generally used as a negative particle: - else, except, fail [father-] less, be gone, in [-curable], neither, never, no (where), none, nor (any, thing), not, nothing, to nought, past, un [-searchable], well-nigh, without

The Abary word ‘Áyan’ doesn’t mean he was taken to heaven but was taken into nought which is physical death. He simply did not exist on earth anymore as the definition of ‘Ayan’ also means ‘not exist or a non-entity’.

Hebrews 11:5

Let’s look at the word to word translation of Heb 11:5 from Abary to English

Ba (In) Amunah (belief) Chanuk (Enoch) labalatay (Lab: heart and this should be translated ‘in his heart) rautu (did see) ayanu (not) hamuth (the death) kiy (because) laqach (took) atu (alaph tau uau) Alahym (Elohim) uhauad (he had the witness) alayu (from above) lapanay (before his face) halaqachu (before he was taken) kiy (that) at (alaph tau)-HaAlahym (the Alahym) hatahlak (he walked)

In English: In belief Chanuk in his heart should see not the death because took (alaph tau) the Alahym he had the witness from above before his face, before he was taken that (alaph tau) the Alahym he walked.

In simple English: In belief Chanuk in his heart did not see death because before (alaph tau uau) Alahym took him he had the witness from above before he was taken that he walked with Alahym.

Vast difference between a word to word translation and the traditional biased translation which uses the english word translated for laqach which means took and omits lab (the heart) in which he did not see the second death because he walked with Alahym.

Genesis 5:21-24 says that Chanuk’s days, alive on Earth, ended at 365 years old. The question is, did he die, was he taken to heaven alive, or was he transported to another location on Earth?

Let us examine the bold phrase in Genesis 5:24, where it says, "And Chanuk walked with Alahym: and he was not (ayan); for Alahym took him" and compare the same Hebrew phrase in:

Psa 37:36 Yet he passed away, and see, he was not (ayan); And I sought him, but he was not found.

Psalms 37:36 speaks of the man who was not existent as he was dead and he could not be found.

Psa 39:12 “Hear my prayer, O יהוה, And give ear to my cry; Do not be silent at my tears; For I am a stranger with You, A sojourner, as all my fathers were.

Psa 39:13 “Look away from me, That I might brighten up, Before I go away and am no more/ayan.”

Now you decide, you want to believe the lies of tradition or the truth from Alahym’s dabar?

Gen 42:13 And they said, “Your servants are twelve brothers, the sons of one man in the land of Kenaʽan. And see, the youngest is with our father today, and one is no more/ayan.”

Gen 42:13- here Yoseph’s brothers assumed their brother Yoseph was dead as they had sold him to the Midianites when he was yet young. But the usage of the word ‘ayan’ shows a non existence/non entity as in one who is dead.

Matthew 2:18, "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not/ ayanu."

Where were Rachel's children? Dead.

The Psalmist said Psa 89:48 What man would live and not see death? Who rescues his life from the power of the grave? Selah.

This showed the Psalmist believed there NO MAN who would not SEE DEATH. Was he not aware of Chanuk? Of course he was because the Psalmist unlike the traditionalist believed Chanuk died and did not believe he was immortal.

Based on Hebrews 9:27, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" and Hebrews 11:13, "These all died in faith, not having received the promises," we must conclude that Chanuk died the first death but did not see the second death in his heart for he walked with Alahym.

To believe Chanuk did not die is to deny the plain word of many other scriptures as well. For example, Romans 5:12, "...so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" and Romans 5:14, "...death reigned from Adam to Masha, even over them that had not sinned." Are we to believe that Chanuk did not sin? Are we to believe that the man Chanuk was greater than Yahusha who was the only first born from the dead and immortal?

At the age of 65, Chanuk had a son named Methuselah. But how long did Chanuk walk with Alahym? Genesis 5:22, "And Chanuk walked with Alahym after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters." So, Chanuk followed Alahym’s ways for three hundred years. Notice that the Scripture does not record that Chanuk is still walking with Alahym, for if he was immortal today then he would be still walking with Alahym, wouldn’t he? It says that Chanuk WALKED with Alahym for three hundred years, and not one year more. Why? Because "all the days of Chanuk were three hundred sixty and five years" (Genesis 5:23).

Paul says, in Colossians 1:10, "That ye might walk worthy of Yahuah."

Chanuk walked with Alahym and pleased Alahym. This is what Genesis 5:22,24 means when it says "Chanuk walked with Alahym."

1 Corinthians 15:20-23 says that all die and all shall be resurrected, but Mashiyach must be first in the order. Chanuk could not possibly have preceded him, especially if he were still flesh and blood as it says in verses 49-52.

The Transfiguration :

The only remaining texts that puzzle people are those relative to the appearances of Masha and AlaYah on the Mount of Transfiguration with Yahusha (Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:2-10, Luke 9:28-36). After the Transfiguration, Yahusha said, while leaving the mountain, "Tell the vision to no man" (Matthew 17:9). Yahusha calls the transfiguration a vision! A vision is not a material reality, but a supernatural picture observed by the eyes. In the case of the transfiguration it was a prophetic vision which would take place in the future. Peter, James and John saw the Son of Man glorified in the Kingdom through a prophetic vision. Here are other examples: Acts 16:9, "And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us." This also is something that was to happen in the future. Was this a real man from Macedonia who cried for help in Paul’s vision? It’s an imagery.

Both Masha and AlaYah were still in their graves, but in vision both they and Yahusha were seen in glory of the resurrection in a vision as Moses represents the Torah and AlaYah the prophets and both the Torah and the Prophets uphold Mashiyach.

There cannot be any doubt that Moses died and was buried (Deuteronomy 34:5-6).

Deu 34:5 And Mosheh the servant of יהוה died there in the land of Mo’aḇ, according to the mouth of יהוה.

Deu 34:6 And He buried him in a valley in the land of Mo’aḇ, opposite Bĕyth Peʽor, and no one knows his burial place to this day.

Therefore, for him to have been in heaven while Yahusha was still in the flesh, Masha had to be resurrected from the dead, receive eternal life, and "put on immortality" (1 Corinthians 15:53). But the Scriptures are clear that Yahusha had to be the first one to be resurrected to eternal life. 1 Corinthians 15:20, "But now is Messiah risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."

If anyone preceded Yahusha, then he wasn't the firstborn from the dead.

Job 14:12 and man shall lie down and not rise. Till the heavens are no more, they awake not, nor are aroused from their sleep.

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